[jadamczyk]

Looking only at excess mortality is pretty shallow. Being European and knowing the differences in health care systems across countries, the excess mortality chart also reflects the quality of healthcare systems in these countries. It isn’t much surprise to see nordic countries being the best here.

[pvaldes]

Is an incomplete picture that forget most relevant factors. For example that France and Spain receive more than 80 millions of international tourists each year and this factor have to be corrected to compare countries. Three of the four Peaks of high mortality in Spain coincided with holiday season: April 2020 (Holy Week, first big holiday after the first case registered 31-jan), June (Start of the holidays) and August (peak of Summer holidays).

After seen how each government reacted in the pandemic, I just assume that everybody lied in the statistics.

[simplotek]

> Is an incomplete picture that forget most relevant factors. For example that France and Spain receive more than 80 millions of international tourists each year and this factor have to be corrected to compare countries.

Why do you feel that tourism is relevant?

[nchie]

The interesting part is mostly comparing the nordic countries against each other. Sweden seemed to be doing much much worse early on due to the chosen strategy, but that no longer seems to be the case.

[brokenkebaby]

However, is NL (e.g.) healthcare that much worse compared to SE?

[gpvos]

I don't know enough about Sweden, but while the overall quality of our healthcare is high, its capacity is tailored very tightly to normal situations and we have very little slack for an epidemic like this. So Dutch ICs overflowed while Germany still had space (and a lot of people were in fact transferred there).