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tom-thistime | 3 years ago

According to the article, the pension fund's exposure is because it owns shares of stock in SVB. That's bad, but bank stocks can be tricky. They're not saying they lost money as a depositor.

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Analemma_|3 years ago

I mean, that's worse. The depositors at SVB are being made whole, the shareholders are getting wiped out.

EDIT: I think a lot of people misunderstood me. Wiping out the shareholders was absolutely the correct thing to do; I just meant worse from the perspective of people whose value is in the equity.

Arrath|3 years ago

Worse as far as the outcome for the Pension, yes.

But its a concept otherwise known as Risk.

jfengel|3 years ago

These shareholders were presumably diversified. They lost money on this but will make money elsewhere. They certainly would not be totally broke ... unless management was incompetent, which is a whole different kettle of fish.

tptacek|3 years ago

It's better in the sense that equity getting wiped out is normal and would be something Alecta planned for the possibility of.

joseftexas|3 years ago

Only those 250K and below depositors will get their money back pay by Fed. Amount greater than that subject to availability of asset fire sales AFTER more senior debts repaid. Depositors are considered "investors" by SCOTUS and hence has much lower pecking order than other secured debts. They are higher than unsecured debt and stockholders if that is the silver linings you looking for.

humanistbot|3 years ago

> I mean, that's worse. The depositors at SVB are being made whole, the shareholders are getting wiped out.

As they should be. They took a risk and lost.

AYBABTME|3 years ago

It's not unreasonable to expect a stock to go to zero. It's a bit unreasonable for cash held in a checking/savings account to go to zero.

tom-thistime|3 years ago

It sounds like a much worse outcome for the pension fund, yeah.

elliekelly|3 years ago

Yes. That’s how investing works.