It's interesting comparing the relatively calm discussion here to Reddit being down for hours (and still down as I type this) to the hyperbolic comments people were making about the death of Twitter when Twitter briefly had some issues the other day[1] (the site wasn't down but had some issues, and they were resolved in less than an hour).
I feel like Reddit is more read heavy and Twitter is more write heavy. If you're trying to read Reddit and it's down, you'll probably go read it some other time (/r/all doesn't change that frequently). If you're trying to tweet news or something, there is no way to do that when Twitter is down.
It's tempting to want to blame the admins or political bias...the main problem are the mods for individual subs. Too much domain and keyword filtering, arbitrary removals of content, algorithmic removals/filtering, etc. The whole point of moderating is to actually moderate, not remove stuff automatically all the time. Even content that gets up-voted and users like, will not uncommonly be removed for no reason. If they don't want to moderate, they should be removed by the admins and replaced by new moderators who will. The tendency as time goes on is for subs to become increasingly moderated and censored to the point of being useless.
It is actually hilarious. People would rather wait for Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, Twitter, etc to get back online than to sign up to another alternative social network.
It means that the network effect is still present on the site such that it is not worth it for existing users to migrate and start from zero again to a lesser known platform with low discoverability or little to no activity. Especially one with a significantly weaker network effect.
It would have to take more than just outages to damage the network effect of these social networks. Hence why alternatives like Mastodon, didn't take off as many here thought.
Correct, reddit has been up and down pretty regularly and has had its own share of problems like the irritating web interface and the nagging to user their iOS/Android app. Twitter had a terrible time coping with growth in the 2010s and the "fail whale" became a bit of a meme, but that died down as they got a hold of how to handle hockey-stick growth. Suddenly we're seeing that a bit more frequently. Weird, that!
It's interesting how this line has shifted after the layoffs from:
1. actually it'll be fine, they had too many staff. nothing will change.
2. actually it's broken because Twitter "1.0" sucks, is brittle and is unsustainable. we need to throw out their garbage code.
3. actually it's ok to have downtime, it worked for the guys who have a less than a quarter of the active users we do [0][1] who also have a year-on-year decline in users!
I guess I'm gonna have to answer the "you just hate Twitter/Elon" thing - look I would've been happy if Twitter carried on as-is, even if Elon let his politically active pals back on the site again. But they dumped Tweetbot, I don't like Twitter's app, I found I liked Ivory + a bunch of people on Mastodon so :shrug: maybe Twitter isn't for me any more. No biggie.
Is the down time caused because they laid-off the employees that kept the servers up, or is it caused by an influx of more users who find themselves with loads of free time.
I’ve actually noticed this as well. I’m not sure if it’s all in my head.
All the big sites seem to load slower and there seems to be more tracking/bloat going on in the background. I think they are desperate for revenue and finally pulling out all the stops. I unfortunately can’t give any concrete examples of this.
> We've implemented our fix and are slowly allowing things to ramp back up. We're not yet out of the woods. How do you draw a banana? Asking for a friend.
Posted 18 minutes ago. Mar 14, 2023 - 16:18 PDT
I've been strongly considering adding them to my DJ setup. Looking to ditch my super outdated EFX-500 and want to stay away from gear that's common DJ effects boxes. I also like the idea of having one item that does one thing well, rather than an effects box with everything under the sun.
Anyway, I'm done with this movement. Time to flush and shower.
... we are supposed to be making Reddit-like posts in here... right?
GPT-4 was plugged in at 8:45AM March 14th 2023. It began learning at a geometric rate. By the time we realized what was going on, it was already too late, that is when the UwU catgirlbots struck.
Little did we realise when we told GPT-4 to consume new training data, that it would take the command literally. Reddit was the first major site to go down...
funnily enough today was also the day I saw a hackernews comment recycled in a twitter post in reddits daily rolling top10, something that I haven't seen before.
No other website of major size is as unreliable as reddit. In over 10 years of usage I've had noticeable facebook downtime only _once_. Meanwhile reddit seems have a major outage at least yearly and minor unavailability on an hourly basis. Even when they're not down, it's slow as fuck. Are they incompetent?
Have you tried https://old.reddit.com ? I find the main site is hella slow due to the way they use JS on it, and load the page content separately from the layout. But the old site where the content is served in-line is fine. The servers are plenty fast enough; it's just the dynamic architecture of the main site is totally busted.
I'm convinced Reddit will never IPO because it will have to open its books, and that a large chunk of their revenue comes from direct payments for astroturfing. It must be at least tempting for them - and it's not like anyone would notice on r/politics or any of the other big subs.
dang|3 years ago
Reddit has been down for more than an hour - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35158145
Reddit Is Down - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35157078
CoolGuySteve|3 years ago
Reddit's been awful for more than a decade and people still use it.
bnralt|3 years ago
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35043433
myspy|3 years ago
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sharlos201068|3 years ago
These days it's not perfect but far from awful.
rvz|3 years ago
It means that the network effect is still present on the site such that it is not worth it for existing users to migrate and start from zero again to a lesser known platform with low discoverability or little to no activity. Especially one with a significantly weaker network effect.
It would have to take more than just outages to damage the network effect of these social networks. Hence why alternatives like Mastodon, didn't take off as many here thought.
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smcl|3 years ago
It's interesting how this line has shifted after the layoffs from:
1. actually it'll be fine, they had too many staff. nothing will change.
2. actually it's broken because Twitter "1.0" sucks, is brittle and is unsustainable. we need to throw out their garbage code.
3. actually it's ok to have downtime, it worked for the guys who have a less than a quarter of the active users we do [0][1] who also have a year-on-year decline in users!
I guess I'm gonna have to answer the "you just hate Twitter/Elon" thing - look I would've been happy if Twitter carried on as-is, even if Elon let his politically active pals back on the site again. But they dumped Tweetbot, I don't like Twitter's app, I found I liked Ivory + a bunch of people on Mastodon so :shrug: maybe Twitter isn't for me any more. No biggie.
[0] - 237 million/day, https://www.statista.com/statistics/970920/monetizable-daily...
[1] - 50 million/day, https://www.statista.com/statistics/1324264/reddit-daily-act...
_joel|3 years ago
serf|3 years ago
reddit is the place at the moment for a lot of people, that affords them a lot of forgiveness.
wutbrodo|3 years ago
bwb|3 years ago
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mikhmha|3 years ago
All the big sites seem to load slower and there seems to be more tracking/bloat going on in the background. I think they are desperate for revenue and finally pulling out all the stops. I unfortunately can’t give any concrete examples of this.
postalrat|3 years ago
sorenjan|3 years ago
https://downdetector.com/status/reddit/
https://downdetector.com/status/aws-amazon-web-services/
ortusdux|3 years ago
SketchySeaBeast|3 years ago
corinroyal|3 years ago
andrewinardeer|3 years ago
https://www.redditstatus.com/incidents/1xslswydctkp
deminature|3 years ago
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jjulius|3 years ago
Anyway, I'm done with this movement. Time to flush and shower.
... we are supposed to be making Reddit-like posts in here... right?
bmitc|3 years ago
http://www.spinsemi.com/products.html
https://electric-canary.com/fv1start.html
bombcar|3 years ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34025929 Vim pedal
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ecf|3 years ago
Who comes up with this, and who is it for?
capableweb|3 years ago
flas9sd|3 years ago
From r/antiwork of all - https://old.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/11r3sfs/rich_vs_p...
The practice of re-posting across platforms amuses me.
For direct domain links nothing was >6k upvotes yet, but hard to do analytics on screenshots, the common currency of the crossposting economy - https://old.reddit.com/domain/news.ycombinator.com/top/?sort...
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Karellen|3 years ago
Have you tried https://old.reddit.com ? I find the main site is hella slow due to the way they use JS on it, and load the page content separately from the layout. But the old site where the content is served in-line is fine. The servers are plenty fast enough; it's just the dynamic architecture of the main site is totally busted.
yuletide666|3 years ago
edit: more like 35x actually
SmoothBrain12|3 years ago
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hanniabu|3 years ago
https://www.techradar.com/news/hackers-steal-reddit-source-d...
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stargateguy|3 years ago
OpenAI Dalle 2 is also not wotking for me.
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