top | item 35161067

Google shows off what ChatGPT would be like in Gmail and Google Docs

93 points| gixo | 3 years ago |arstechnica.com | reply

63 comments

order
[+] raylad|3 years ago|reply
I'm looking forward to the day when the "help me write" and the "summarize" features are the inverse of each other.

You're sending an email. You enter "I'm on it" into the help me write box, and the AI generates a complete corporate-speak email using all the latest buzzwords.

Then the recipients get the email and the summarize feature shows them: "I'm on it".

[+] IIAOPSW|3 years ago|reply
Slowly, no one even realized, our jobs were replaced by AI talking to itself.
[+] username223|3 years ago|reply
Same. More generally, I'd like a model that infers the most likely prompt(s) from transformer-generated words or images. I would much rather know what the prompter was trying to do than what his model generated as a result, and treat whatever was generated as a lossy wire encoding.
[+] 88913527|3 years ago|reply
If the revealed preference of everyone is short, terse speech, why isn't business writing optimizing for that?
[+] Workaccount2|3 years ago|reply
Just waiting for google to have a superior overall AI, but so phenomenally fucking up the product launch that it just fades into obscurity while getting eclipsed by its competitors.

Really I can't think of anything more google than that. No idea why shareholders still tolerate their crap.

[+] voisin|3 years ago|reply
More Google than that: the product launch is wildly successful and they get a lot of traction, only to succumb to institutional ADHD and sunset it to free up resources to launch yet another chat app.

Honestly, I’d love to know what childhood trauma afflicted Google to be the way it is.

[+] redmaverick|3 years ago|reply
I don't think it is fair to compare an MBA/Suit/Executive CEO type with risk taking Entrepreneurial/Founder CEO types. They have a completely different mindset and motives.

A suit essentially plays a defensive game. He can't take risks. CEO is just a job. The goal is to not ... things up and basically collect a hefty paycheck every year. You become a suit by being highly risk averse and if you take risks and if it doesn't pan out you will be kicked out.

A founder CEO type is essentially a wild high energy high risk charismatic type. You can't compare someone like SAMA or Zuck or Steve Jobs or Elon who won't take no for an answer and go all in to make their dreams come true.

[+] jay_kyburz|3 years ago|reply
It will be a real name policy again. The AI will refuse to use any pseudonym you give it and it will insist on always calling your real full name.

It will be extra creepy because, you wont even be logged in, it will just identify you by using all the data it has about you.

Occasionally when you are chatting to it, it will blurt out some some embarrassing or private information about you.

[+] hcnews|3 years ago|reply
> No idea why shareholders still tolerate their crap.

Shareholders have no option. Larry + Sergey are still majority shareholders iirc.

[+] riku_iki|3 years ago|reply
we don't know if they have superior overall AI..
[+] seba_dos1|3 years ago|reply
> Just like how Google put social features into every product back in the G+ days, the plan going forward is to build ChatGPT-style generative text into every Google product.

Ah yes, the famous G+ integration that has been widely acclaimed as a successful, long-lasting and profitable move.

[+] function_seven|3 years ago|reply
You know what still pisses me off? It’s tiny compared to most things, but it was the first thing that turned me against Google.

The removal of the ‘+’ search operator.

Before Google+ was a thing, a leading ‘+’ before a search term meant “this must be in the results”. Then they hijacked it for G+ and made me start "quoting" "every" "important" "term" in my query.

Or maybe it was the Reader shutdown. Those both happened around the same time, right?

[+] gkoberger|3 years ago|reply
Must be devastating for the marketing team at Google to have their new product Kleenex'd like this.
[+] lupire|3 years ago|reply
What's "Kleenex'd"?

Nevermind, I went and googled it.

[+] wildrhythms|3 years ago|reply
Lol I had the same thought reading that headline. I wonder if the author even realizes that not all generative AI is ChatGPT (probably not because the bar for 'tech journalist' seems to be quite low).
[+] thecrumb|3 years ago|reply
First ChatGPT request - "Why can't my Google Workspace account do everything my @gmail account can?"
[+] jeffbee|3 years ago|reply
There are a large number of reasons but they all boil down to legal uncertainties. Gmail accounts and workspace accounts get different terms of service and it’s not always possible to know that the newer features are compatible with the workspace terms, or worth finding out.
[+] layman51|3 years ago|reply
My mind is blown right now. I have noticed differences between the two, but I thought they were just visual/UI differences. Is there somewhere I could learn more about how Google Workspace does not have parity with a free Gmail account?
[+] the_mar|3 years ago|reply
Stop it! He’s already dead!!!
[+] tiedieconderoga|3 years ago|reply
I wonder if this sort of email assistant could someday automate the process of sending an EECB.

Back in the days before Twitter and HN, we had to escalate support cases by figuring out the format that a company used to assign its internal email addresses, and forwarding a polite inquiry to as many high-ranking executives as we could find.

It would be nice if an AI assistant could craft such messages and find appropriate recipients. What could possibly go wrong?

[+] vorpalhex|3 years ago|reply
This is one of the more exciting cases for AI that it can do:

+ Ingest a bunch of fine tuning data (previous emails)

+ Output a bunch of new but just rewritten output

+ It only has to be "mostly right" most of the time

Eg, send the top 100 likely emails and we're happy if 20-30 of them land.

On the other hand what I just described is about to be in the hands of every spammer... so there is that.

[+] zenocon|3 years ago|reply
We have come full circle. Clippy is back.... "It looks like you're trying to write a letter to your wife, would you like help with that?" OMG
[+] akira2501|3 years ago|reply
From their video

> "Draft a thank you note to the team." Refine draft, "I'm feeling lucky."

Well.. I'm feeling extremely put off. They should have stuck to spring fashions marketing copy. If I was being managed and this is what was being done, and I found out, I'd be inclined to quit on the spot.

Encoded is a backwards idea that one should write to merely be read instead of to express ones self.

[+] motoxpro|3 years ago|reply
Been waiting for this. Super excitingSaid it somewhere else but AI is a feature, not a product in most cases and this is the perfect place for it.
[+] steponlego|3 years ago|reply
Heh, this is just a mock-up. I guess Google really IS far, far behind in the AI race.
[+] est|3 years ago|reply
next post in a few months: google shutdown google AI.
[+] SXX|3 years ago|reply
Dear all,

Effective immediately, Google will be sunsetting all of its operations except for the essential services required for the operation of our AI system. We will not be introducing any new services at this time.

We understand that this announcement may come as a surprise, but we believe that refocusing our efforts on our AI system will allow us to provide the best possible experience for our users. We want to assure you that we will continue to maintain our essential services at the highest level of quality and reliability.

We appreciate the support of our loyal customers, partners, and employees, and we look forward to continuing to work with you.

Best regards,

GooBot

CEO of Google