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javman | 2 years ago

Have you seen what modern plant farms look like?

Massive water usage, lowering river levels drastically. Some don't even reach the ocean anymore (see the Colorado River, from Wikipedia: "Since 1960, the Colorado has typically dried up before reaching the sea, with the exception of a few wet years."). Aquifers are running low (here's some info on that from 20 years ago: https://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs-103-03/).

Pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers.

Massive land use for mono-culture farms, displacing whatever wildlife and native plants were present before the farm. Add more farms and you'll have less wildlife.

Everyone switching to plant-based diet sounds nice, but is really not going to fix much. Unless you can change farming to not be so resource intensive? There are just too many people.

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myshpa|2 years ago

Animal agriculture uses 3x more land than plants.

Do you really think that those things you've listed (water, pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers, displacing wildlife...) are solely a problem for plant farms? I must have misunderstand you.

> Everyone switching to plant-based diet sounds nice, but is really not going to fix much

We could save 75% of those lands. https://ourworldindata.org/land-use

ajmurmann|2 years ago

And a lot of the plants we grow are to feed livestock.

andbberger|2 years ago

irrelevant given efficiency losses when raising livestock. where do you think the food your chickens eat comes from