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mvuksano | 2 years ago

I'm confused why people expect this stuff to be free? I'm surprised OpenAI was so open about their research so far. I don't blame them at all for not publishing the information. This stuff costs real money.

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randomwalker|2 years ago

We don't expect it to be free -- please read the article. That's not the issue at all. It's like if you subscribe to a product that you need to do your job, and one day the company tells you that the product is going away in three days and that you need to switch to a different product (that isn't at all the same for your use case).

mvuksano|2 years ago

I don't think it's a smart idea to build any serious business using a tech that you can't replace. ChatGPT is great tool to help with coding for example but it's by no means substitute for an engineer. If someone starts a business by hiring a number of bootcampers and giving them ChatGPT hoping to run a serious business that way - well it's their risk to take... But no crying later...

nomercy400|2 years ago

Maybe you shouldn't build your livelihood on the products of a single for-profit company, which now shows it can remove those products on a whim.

If you want reproducible research, make your own model from scratch, or use an open model. And stop using that company's products, as they cannot be trusted to provide your business continuity.

It is like saying, we are researching Coca-Cola vs Pepsi, but your keep changing the recipe, so give us, researchers, the original recipe.

saurik|2 years ago

It might be less confusing if you consider that OpenAI was originally a non-profit. That it was even possible for them to end up in this state has massively undermined any trust I have in non-profits as a steward.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/5d3naz/openai-is-now-everyth...

> OpenAI was founded in 2015 as a nonprofit research organization by Altman, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and LinkedIn cofounder Reid Hoffman, among other tech leaders. In its founding statement, the company declared its commitment to research “to advance digital intelligence in the way that is most likely to benefit humanity as a whole, unconstrained by a need to generate financial return.” The blog stated that “since our research is free from financial obligations, we can better focus on a positive human impact,” and that all researchers would be encouraged to share "papers, blog posts, or code, and our patents (if any) will be shared with the world."

> By March 2019, OpenAI shed its non-profit status and set up a “capped profit” sector, in which the company could now receive investments and would provide investors with profit capped at 100 times their investment.

alwayslikethis|2 years ago

Hi, saurik!

Yeah, I think this is a betrayal to the public. There isn't anything open about OpenAI anymore.