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iconosynclast | 2 years ago

Sure politicians should also be held accountable for policy failures but I don't think it absolves the people enacting an injustice from responsibility. "just following orders" is not a valid excuse and "just vote different" is not a valid way to hold people accountable (in all cases). When everything works in the spirit of the law and the output is still bad it makes sense to just vote for different laws/people to make new legislation, sure, but when rights are being violated there need to be harsh consequences.

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belorn|2 years ago

It is important that those responsible for the police force can not just simply wash themselves clean of the problem by firing the lowest level employees. I do not disagree that individuals need to be held responsible for their own actions, through most blames should lie on those who hold power to create real change in the organization. As an generalization, a good model is one where blames travels upward and praise travel downward.

Just voting differently is naturally not the only way a government can be held responsible. Political assigned jobs is a job description based on trust, and there should be mechanism to remove individuals who do not fulfill that trust. Governments should also be liable to their citizens, so when injustice occurs people should have the option to demand compensation from the government. This in turn put pressure on politicians to avoid injustice caused by the police.

A police force that protects citizens rights should be viewed as an asset to local government, and the opposite should be a harsh liability that local governments can feel.