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komposit | 2 years ago

This skepticism absolutely baffles me. Have you been using gpt-4? To unlock gpt for real you have to be careful to prompt it correctly and find a way to improve the feedback loop for improving code. It is only a matter of time until tools arrive that integrate this into your development environment and give it access to test/console output such that it can suggest code and iterate over the result. It's not perfect yet, but I'm seriously feeling the nature of our work will change fundamentally over two years already.

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illiarian|2 years ago

So... nothing changes. It will be the tool for which you will need to manually construct prompts and clean up output (including imagined non-existent APIs).

The availability of a button inside an IDE doesn't make this a fundamental change in how we work

cortesoft|2 years ago

I don’t know, I feel like it really does change how we can interact with a computer.

It feels like we are headed to a world where we can interact with a computer much more like they do in Star Trek; you ask the computer to do something using plain English, and then keep giving it refinements until you get what you want. Along the way, it is going to keep getting better and better and doing the common things asked, and will only need refinements for doing new things. Humans will get better at giving those refinements as the AI gets better at responding to them.

It is already incredibly good for being such a new technology, and will continue to rapidly improve.

visarga|2 years ago

The step up in accuracy from one shot solutions to iterative ones is large.

deeviant|2 years ago

If the button can do, let's say, half or more of the work for you when you press it, you're lying to yourself if you think it won't change anything.

dbtc|2 years ago

Nothing changes the same way that there is no difference between writing software in assembly and writing it in python.

crop_rotation|2 years ago

It is so far ahead of even what the best IDEs do. For one, I have not seen GPT4 ever use non existent APIs. You don't need to carefully construct prompts. It tolerates typos to a good extent. You can just type a rough description and the output won't need cleaning manually. You might need to reiterate it to focus on some thing (like remove all heap allocations and focus on performance).

angarg12|2 years ago

Is not skepticism, it's curbed optimism.

I don't feel that my job is at risk of disappearing. Instead I think we'll be using LLMs as tools to do our job better.

elif|2 years ago

I think it's safe to assume anyone trying to criticize chatGPT who has access to gpt4 would specify that their attempts are using even the latest and greatest. The disclosure is in the interest of their core argument.

Therefore the inverse can be safely inferred by nondisclosure.

orangesite|2 years ago

"You're holding it wrong"

vineyardmike|2 years ago

There’s a difference between the iPhone “you’re holding it wrong” argument and not using a tool correctly. If you try to hammer a screw, it may enter the wood but that doesn’t mean it’s the correct way to use it.

ilaksh|2 years ago

I am working on this. Broke so have to do odd GPT jobs from Upwork to make ends meet so paused on development. But the front end stuff works. At least as far as skipping copy paste.