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thwayunion | 2 years ago

> I think the parent is saying that ipso facto joining a cult means that they weren't actually 'very smart', only in appearance.

If by "intelligent" we mean the conventional thing -- learns new things easily, capable of reasoning through complex tasks, would do well in med school/law school/phd programs/finance/engineering, picks up creative disciplines quickly, etc -- then are we sure it's not exactly the other way around?

People become invested in cults and conspiracies for emotional reasons, not rational reasons, and conventionally intelligent people are extraordinarily good at post hoc rationalization. More importantly, they're often better at mitigating or managing some of the downsides (eg, maintaining good-enough status in a cult, avoiding talking about the conspiracy in certain circumstances, etc.).

At least, this has been my experience with some extended family who fell into a cult: the ones I could consider "smartest" were stuck in the cult the longest, because they could rationalize their way into an answer for everything.

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MichaelZuo|2 years ago

The truly intelligent, or 'very smart', people reliably detect when they are falling for post hoc rationalizations.

At least in my experience.

Most other people make claims or may appear to be but in practice do not demonstrate it on a broad basis, as in your example.

Maybe a different terminology is needed to describe the latter case, 'selectively smart'?

js2|2 years ago

You're making a No True Scotsman argument here, no?