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richardhenry | 2 years ago

We will never run ads. We plan to make money primarily by offering pro subscriptions and a version of Wavelength for organizations.

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sobkas|2 years ago

> We will never run ads. We plan to make money primarily by offering pro subscriptions and a version of Wavelength for organizations.

There are so many corporations that made similar pledges only to break them when it became advantageous for them to do so. Is there any mechanism that actually would enforce it? Mechanism that wouldn't disappear with a single stroke of pen?

ymolodtsov|2 years ago

Such a mechanism simply doesn't exist. A company can't simply force itself to keep this promise unless you actually trust its leadership. Similar to how Substack authors sometimes start running ads on their paid newsletters.

anileated|2 years ago

There is: make the service paid from get go and put things like this in writing as part of the contract. Money changes hands, there’s something to risk being sued over.

Going for network effect with a free offering means there has to be investment money keeping the lights on. Those investors will want their returns.

magicloop|2 years ago

I have great respect for your current work and assurances on the business model. But what you are asserting is only _currently_ in your gift.

If you keep controlling equity stakes in the business and don't need to raise significant outside investment it will work out as per your business model.

If you get into enterprise selling, you'll need a sales workforce and significant cost of Sales/Goods/Administration. If you want only organic growth, you'll be ok. But what will happen is that investment from, or selling to a large corporate, will turbo boost such sales; the temptation proves irresistible to many. If you are in a land-grab dynamics with other companies, growth may actually mean survival.

There is a scalability tier above the best subscription businesses, which is mass-market consumer adoption. The twitter experience demonstrates this. The ad revenue across billions outweighs a tidy subscription revenue from a small highly engaged subscription crowd. Any significant co-investor will find the lure of this irresistible. If you gain private equity investors, you will become ad based with high probability.

I welcome your contribution to the field of messaging apps and wish you well. I hope that this can inform your judgements about business models going forwards. If you think this is incorrect, please follow up with your alternative thoughts.