[ar9av]

Probably an unpopular opinion, and I realize I'm kind of ranting on a relatively unrelated subject, but I have become really dissuaded with the Node ecosystems dependence on seemingly boundless dependency trees. The fact that Window's file system can't handle moving project directories (without deleting the node_modules), and relatively simple projects using megabytes of raw text to work... anyways.

While I understand that you don't want to re-invent the wheel, it seems like the this is an important enough part of your project that your own implementation would be the only one without compromises.

[LegionMammal978]

> Probably an unpopular opinion... but I have become really dissuaded with the Node ecosystems dependence on seemingly boundless dependency trees.

I wouldn't be quite so dramatic about that; HN as a collective loves complaining about NPM and dependency trees. (At the same time, it loves complaining about NIH syndrome. Although I suppose existent but limited dependency trees are far from an impossibility.)

E.g., https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35243196, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35210975, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35070210, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34940437, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34932957, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34785080, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34779769, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34768828, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34708290, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34686056, ...

[11235813213455]

as a developer you can also keep a relatively low number of dependencies, and mainstream or simple ones

[davedx]

Yup for sure, 100%. Pulling in a library every time you don't know how to do something is a choice. Only pulling in dependencies that have 10,000 Github stars or are in every react Youtube video without evaluating alternatives is also a choice. I learned to be way more discriminating about npm libraries from a tech lead a few years ago, and to be honest it's one of the best lessons I've learned in a while.

[Kye]

That takes awareness and discipline. The last time I tried to learn Node, all the guides led you down a road of dependency hell.

[Waterluvian]

I don’t necessarily disagree but I have to say that in 10 years of working almost daily with sizeable node applications, this hasn’t been a problem for the past 7 or 8 years.

Maybe I shot myself in the foot enough times to have learned what not to do.

[nailer]

> The fact that Window's file system can't handle moving project directories (without deleting the node_modules)

Windows-based developer here. Don't use Windows node. Use the Linux x64 build in WSL.

[furyofantares]

What's that got to do with it being low to spam them?