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chrisb | 2 years ago

This claim of grid overload is false.

See [0] for the UK grid operator's view on this, also includes a few numbers relevant to the US grid.

[0] https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/journey-to-net-zero/ele...

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hitpointdrew|2 years ago

You should probably read more than the headline.

  1. This article is specific to the UK, not the US.
  2. The article is published by an Electrical company, obviously as PR piece to make it look like they have things under controll. This is not an idependaty study.
  3. One the "solutions" to the problem the UK came up with is regulations which state:
>The regulations ensure charge points have smart functionality, allowing the charging of an electric vehicle when there is less demand on the grid, or when more renewable electricity is available. The regulations also ensure that charge points meet certain device-level requirements, enabling a minimum level of access, security and information for consumers.

In other words, even the grid the UK cannot handle an influx of EV's to combat this they are making the charge points "smart" (i.e. you won't be able to charge your vehicle when you wish only when the "smart" point says demand is low enough). This is hardly a solution. It attempts to "spread" out the charging with these "smart points", the problem is most people work during the day (and are parked somewhere where they cannot charge) and will want to charge at night. This would leave many SOL when they wake up to find their vehicle hasn't charged at all.

Hard, fucking, pass. Additionally, EV's are complete non-starter until they can go from 0% charge to full charge in 2 min or less IMO. If am on a road trip and trying to make good time I am not waiting around an hour+ for my vehicle to charge. Until charging is as easy and quick as pumping gas I have no interest in an EV.

hedora|2 years ago

EV’s draw less power on average than space heaters, and rapid charging is bad for the battery. These two facts address most concerns about grid overload.

On this road trip, you only stop for 2 minutes every 300-600 miles. Are you peeing in a bottle or something? Current cars take 20-40 minutes for 20-80%. That’s more than fast enough if you stop for meals.

Also, charging is more convenient than pumping gas, since 99% of the time, you do it at your destination (home, work, restaurant, grocery store, etc.)

7thaccount|2 years ago

Where did the parent comment mention grid overload?

ImPostingOnHN|2 years ago

when it said "our electric grid is nowhere near where it needs to be to remotely support a large shift to EVs"

without specifying further detail (like "we need more chargers connected to that grid"), the reasonable interpretation is that the grid itself, meaning the means of delivering power to power users (including any installed chargers), has deficiencies preventing it from doing so