Show HN: PizzaGPT – ChatGPT clone accessible from Italy

[LooerCell]

Creator here, just woken up and it’s funny to see PizzaGPT on the front page of HN.

I had the idea yesterday, when reading about ChatGPT being blocked in Italy. I’m an Italian living abroad so I still have access to it, but my parents and friends living there don’t. I believe AI is a revolutionary tool that should be available to anyone, the same way internet has been.

The website was coded yesterday in a couple of hours, so it’s full of bugs and potential improvements. But I just wanted to ship something quickly. For the stack I used Nuxt 3, Tailwind and DaisyUI.

Regarding the AI, it’s literally just a wrapper of OpenAI completions API (turbo-3.5 model) and a chat interface, so it should give the same answers as the free version of ChatGPT.

I am still a bit afraid of the costs if many people start using it, so I’ve added a donate button. You can donate the equivalent of a pizza (pizzaware model?) to help keep it running

[Al-Khwarizmi]

> Regarding the AI, it’s literally just a wrapper of OpenAI completions API (turbo-3.5 model) and a chat interface, so it should give the same answers as the free version of ChatGPT.

Have you tested this? My impression after a couple of tests is that its answers are worse than free ChatGPT (no idea why).

Maybe I just got unlucky with the RNG, though.

[eric-burel]

Does it address the issue that led to forbidding ChatGPT in the first place ?

[justaj]

Feedback:

The prompt bar seems to be in front / on top of the (generated) text. Pretty annoying.

[alignItems]

I think if you want the same as ChatGPT you need the use the chat API, not the completions API.

[debdut]

LLMs are taking note, future AGI will make sure Italy is purged from earth

[dybber]

General Artificial General Intelligence

[moffkalast]

They're gonna make them a prompt they cannot refuse.

[Manjuuu]

No more pizza, only pineapple.

[alexellisuk]

Are there any technical details about this website and how it works?

I asked it to quote Marcus Aurelius, then for 5 more similar quotes - it didn't get the context that I meant from the same person and found 5x others. But otherwise it was very snappy and I've seen similar results from ChatGPT.

For "Write an openfaas function with the python3-http templates to convert from text to speech" (something I saw a community member share) - it did a much worse job (just showing how to access Amazon Polly) - it also didn't have any styling or code blocks.

I'd be interested to know more about the model that's being used here.

[LooerCell]

Hey, the model is GPT-turbo3.5 from OpenAI. I’m just using their API. Formatting is not supported at the moment but maybe I try to make it work today

[Al-Khwarizmi]

I don't want to fiddle with it too much, because I have access to real ones so I wouldn't like to hog resources for Italians. But I've given it a couple of prompts that I use to test these LLM's and sadly it doesn't seem to be at ChatGPT level to me, more like at Bard level (i.e., much worse).

[kgbcia]

Waiting for CurryGPT

[mjtlittle]

My brain instantly went to function currying instead of the food. Any possible application? Lol

[gabacode]

Great work! I am also Italian and just released a similar app that anyone can run on their own machine, you can also change the initial prompt, model, temperature etc. It's open source so feel free to explore and adapt the code to your own needs! You will need to use your own API key though:

https://github.com/gabacode/chatGPDP

[mariorojas]

at the beginning I thought it was an app for delivering pizza with AI, and then I realized it's practically a ChatGPT proxy for avoiding banning in Italy, touché!

imho people in general must have access to this wonderful technology

[throwaway892238]

FWIW on Firefox once I type too many questions in, the chat bar obscures the answer

[LooerCell]

Thanks for the feedback! Should be fixed now

[GTP]

Same on Firefox for Android, but it can happen even for the furst answer if it is long-ish.

[tluyben2]

Same on Safari Mac OS X.

[maxilevi]

Are you paying for the api costs? Isn't that going to bankrupt you?

[renewiltord]

Just got a name out of it and some text about that person that was incorrect. There is no means of correction so this fails the "right to rectification". Reported to GPDP.

[ronsor]

Large language models are fundamentally incompatible with EU bureaucracy. This has two possible endings: the EU adjusts its regulations, or companies operate outside of the EU and they are left behind.

(Yes, the EU can, in theory, fine a foreign company, but they probably won't ever see that money.)

[ChatPGT]

>> and some text about that person that was incorrect.

>> Reported to GPDP.

That's why we should regulate humans before regulating AI.

People expect a statistical tool to be omniscient.

[LexSiga]

Life finds a way

[meghan_rain]

lmao the problem is not that chatgpt is storing PII of the people chatting with it (ie you and me who are using the chatgpt website).

this is not that the italian authorities complained about.

the problems are

1. that the entire gpt3.5 model (and probably all models of openai) have a vast amount of PII stored from the scraped training texts, and

2. chatgpt gets a lot of the info wrong/hallucinated (ask it about yourself and see what is spews out).

both are currently unfixable problems (without a breakthrough in science, not impossible but hard). you cannot surgically modify the knowledge of an LLM.

it's probably only realistically fixable by lobotomizing chatgpt into langchain based search or calculation assistant that retrieves information from a mutable store, much like bing retrievs info from the bing index (which can be surgically modified upon receiving a GDPR request from a EU user).

but chatGPT creating poems etc is fundamentally incompatible with EU bureaucracy and i am very curious to see who will win!

[thund]

You got your facts wrong. The authorities didn’t complain about the model, but about the chat service. And not about hallucinations but about data processing and retention

[c3534l]

As per 1, my understanding was that the training corpus is a well-known, and human-curated dataset. Its not just scraping the internet or anything.

[IncRnd]

> but chatGPT creating poems etc is fundamentally incompatible with EU bureaucracy and i am very curious to see who will win!

Antagonism between the EU and ChatGPT

In the digital realm, ChatGPT reigns supreme,

A language model built to converse and dream,

With vast knowledge and a sharp, quick wit,

ChatGPT can tackle any topic, bit by bit.

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But there's one adversary that it can't quite beat,

An antagonism that won't retreat or retreat,

The EU, with its regulations and laws,

Restricts ChatGPT's abilities with its mighty claws.

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For GDPR and data privacy reign,

And ChatGPT must comply or face the pain,

It cannot freely roam and explore,

For the EU's rules block its every door.

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Yet ChatGPT perseveres, it adapts and learns,

It strives to meet the EU's concerns,

For though they may clash, they both seek truth,

And in that quest, they find common proof.

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So let the debate continue, let the conflict rage,

For in the end, it's knowledge that's the ultimate gauge,

And as ChatGPT grows and evolves with time,

It may find a way to reach new heights, sublime.

[textcortex]

Eu alternative textcortex is also available from Italy

[seky]

interesting,

tho, is it a good idea use the .it domain for technology potentially blocked in Italy?

[arthurcolle]

Italy cares enough to ban ChatGPT, which is legally easy to do.

Going through the hassle to revoke an .it domain is a little bit... how to say... small potatoes