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tomandrews88 | 2 years ago

> I just want to get a quick grasp of what exactly has happened

TLDR: there are far fewer consequences for crime now in large cities like SF, NY, LA. The results are as expected.

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fogzen|2 years ago

“After reaching a peak of 1,115 per 100,000 residents in 1992, California’s violent crime rate steadily fell, reaching a 50-year low of 392 in 2014.”

“While the violent crime rate has fluctuated year-over-year, it has remained relatively stable this past decade—between 428 and 466, hovering near its 2010 level (440), when California embarked on major criminal justice reforms.”

“While violent and property crime rates increased in 2021, both remain relatively low”

https://www.ppic.org/publication/crime-trends-in-california/

tomandrews88|2 years ago

Another thing you should know as a European about SF is that saying the truth will get you downvoted if the truth doesn’t sound nice

gwd|2 years ago

I think GP was looking for at least a bit more context. How did it come to pass that there are fewer consequences for crime in SF?

revelio|2 years ago

The prevailing world view of SF and that part of California in general states that the root cause of crime is society at large, and not so much the individual criminal. In this world view a criminal is to be pitied and improved or perhaps just left alone rather than victimized by the state, not locked up.

Due to the absolute dominance of voters with this mentality, and the practice of electing prosecutorial positions that in other parts of the world would be professional appointees, they have repeatedly ended up with prosecutors that ran on a campaign of refusing to prosecute. This isn't specific to SF, it can also be seen in LA and New York. In fact one of the criticisms levelled at the Trump inditement is that the prosecutor in question campaigned specifically on prosecuting Trump (for whatever) and has now upgraded what would normally be a misdemeanor, whilst simultaneously downgrading many other types of crime.

In other words: politics, ideology, the usual suspects.