[petodo]

Because it works in general? Even the worst country in Europe [1] (Latvia 4.9 murders/100k pop.) by murder rate is better than US average (6.6/100K) [2] with France 1.1, Germany 0.9, etc. So unless you choose extreme in Europe you are looking for sure at least at 3-5 times lower murder rates in Europe.

[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1268504/homicide-rate-eu...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ...

[User23]

As we can see by comparing the county map of the USA that you linked with a demographic map, murder in the USA is overwhelmingly a demographic issue. We can debate the reasons why, but the data itself is readily available and incontrovertible. The changing demographics of Western Europe will prove an interesting new data point for that debate.

[dan-robertson]

I don’t think a picture of a map is incontrovertible? https://xkcd.com/1138/

What are the arguments against your position that you think are strongest and why are they so weak that you think they can be considered ‘incontrovertible’?

[amaranth]

...are you saying people in cities commit murder?