[chillstreem]

doesn't this bug only manifest itself if one is using microsoft defender as their only security solution, and not a 3rd party AV/IS? if so, then the number of Firefox users in this calculation is much lower.

[SketchySeaBeast]

I don't know if that's the case. I'm a Firefox user but consider all the 3rd party apps nearly as much malware as the things they are trying to solve. I run strictly defender and try to make good choices when downloading and browsing.

[UberFly]

I actually replace Defender with a 3rd party choice (Eset) for this very same reason - to wrestle some control over my OS from Microsoft. I find Defender to be overbearing in so many ways.

[guestbest]

I agree with this and try to practice myself. I download portablespps.com hoping they have a scanner and stick to the open source ones

[chillstreem]

well, if we're taking strictly subjective personal experiences as some sort of a relevant benchmark, then I'm a Windows Firefox user that has never used MS defender for any length of time, and always strictly a reliable low-impact 3rd party AV like ESET or Emsisoft. so I guess the two of us cancel each other out.

[Neil44]

More complicated still, defender does not completely stop working when 3rd party AV is installed. Also maybe Firefox is not the only app triggering this bug?

[slowmovintarget]

I run an antivirus suite and have attempted to turn Defender off several times. Windows Update keeps switching it back on.