[SassyGrapefruit]

I don't know man. I am employed but I still get 64 recruiting emails a day. Seems like business as usual. FWIW I have never had luck with applications. The last time I was unemployed I sent out 10 or 15 and heard nothing. I reached out to a recruiter and was drowning in interviews within a week.

As for the other side, I do hiring on my team. We posted a Senior SRE on linkedin and got 30 applicants within a week. That was not our experience 2 months ago(more like 5). Maybe something has changed. I don't know I don't pay too much attention.

[jzb]

I keep seeing things that suggest recruiters are keeping active to look active but not much going on beyond that. That is, people may be getting hit up for things that aren't going to pan out for any of the people they touch - they just want full schedules.

Or you may be super in demand, too!

[neilv]

> but I still get 64 recruiting emails a day

Recruiters recruit. When it's harder to get people hired, I suppose that means recruiters have to work harder/smarter.

If you're getting more recruiter outreaches than most people, maybe it's what you're plugged into, or (I suppose) some recruiters might still be operating on the old rule that a poached hire is preferred to a currently unemployed one.

(Even though, given the large number of layoffs from prestige/upscale companies lately, I'd think that being laid off isn't a bad signal on someone. And the laid off person might be more likely candidate to get to accept an offer, and therefore maybe preferable to spending recruiting time on.)

[TylerE]

Feels like there's just a chasm... they want CHEAP people, not GOOD people.

[rr808]

My experience may be off, but FAANG salaries the last 5 years have been so huge maybe normal looks cheap now.

[throwaway5959]

Most companies don’t need or care about good people. They need cheap people who can keep the machines running and not break anything too badly until they either get acquired or they absolutely have to invest in fixing their stack.