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arthuredelstein | 2 years ago

Total Cookie Protection partitions all cookie-like data ("state") between the websites you visit, not just cookies. For a technical discussion, see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Privacy/State_P...

You can see which browsers partition state (and which don't) in the State Partitioning section of https://privacytests.org. Firefox passes nearly all of those tests because Total Cookie Protection is enabled by default.

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olliej|2 years ago

I have a problem with them including the "GPC" flag as a privacy feature. We know directly from "Do Not Track" that it was widely ignored, and frequently actually used to perform tracking because it was meant to be opt in, and so was rare. When it got turned on by default a bunch of companies said "DNT is not a user choice now so doesn't mean anything".

I'm not sure what document.referrer blocking is meant to accomplish - if the intent is for the referrer to pass information to the loaded site then they can just include that in the url. If the intent is "don't let people know where you saw the link", then sadly there are plenty of sites that gate access on the referrer and they get broken. The fact that no one is filtering that kind of indicates the cost/reward balance.

Calling "media queries" a privacy issue is absurd: literally the purpose of these is to allow sites to tailor to the view format. More over you can directly measure these from JS, it's just less efficient and more annoying.

The "known tracker" blocking is more curious as I'm unsure how that's expected to scale, nor what happens if a browser ever misclassifies one (be it a resource or a query parameter). Certainly query strings can be trivially changed to make anything a major browser does just break instantly, and similarly trivially changed to not be statically identifiable.

I also wonder how those are tested because browsers that do automatic "learned" identification of trackers do take time to identify what they consider trackers and start blocking them. e.g. that site says google analytics is not blocked by safari, yet I can look at Safari's tracker stats and see that it has identified and is blocking google analytics.

arthuredelstein|2 years ago

Hi! Author of PrivacyTests.org here. Thank you very much for the comment. (I only just saw your reply.) PrivacyTests is very much a work in progress, and all feedback is much appreciated.

GPC does differ from Do Not Track in that the former is intended to carry the weight of law. See for example: https://cheq.ai/blog/what-is-a-global-privacy-control/

Regarding document.referrer, you are absolutely right that there is a cost/reward balance and most browsers have chosen to allow cross-site passing of the referrer. However, there are browsers on Android that do block cross-site referrer altogether (see https://privacytests.org/android.html).

"Media queries" refers to the fingerprinting threat where, for example, screen width and height is divulged. You are right that JavaScript can also be easily used to get screen width and height: any fingerprinting resistance feature should protect against screen fingerprinting via both JS and media queries, in my view. Some browsers already do that, as the results show.

Your question about scale is a good one. Some browsers (such as Firefox and Brave) embed fairly large blocklists. You are right that query parameters can be changed, but in practice I haven't seen any cases of that happening (yet).

As far as I am aware, Safari is (by default) blocking cookies/storage from Google Analytics and similar trackers, but not blocking the scripts themselves. You can see that cookie blocking reflected in the "Tracking cookie protection tests".

talkin|2 years ago

> Calling "media queries" a privacy issue is absurd

The header at media queries says “Fingerprinting resistance”. Some data point like screenwidth doesn’t immediately disclose you identity. But having a few data points helps with fingerprinting.

7v3x3n3sem9vv|2 years ago

on mobile so can't provide source but look up why privacy badger no longer uses a dynamic "learned" list of trackers to block, the way you mention safari works and instead uses a list that everyone else uses. it basically reduces privacy because your list of blocked sites is likely to be unique among other users (along with other data points) and unintuitively makes it easier to track you across the web.

tinus_hn|2 years ago

I’m impressed because as far as I could tell Safari is equal or better than Firefox on all of these tests.