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vhold | 2 years ago

I think people may be overlooking a bigger story here:

https://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/Bills/FTPDocument?path=%2FBil...

  Reasonable age verification methods under subdivision (c)(1)
  of this section include providing:
  (A) A digitized identification card, including a digital
      copy of a driver's license under § 27-16-601 et seq.;
  (B) Government-issued identification; or
  (C) Any commercially reasonable age verification method.

  "Digitized identification card" means a data file available
  on a mobile device that has connectivity to the internet through a state
  approved application that allows the mobile device to download the data file
  from the Office of Driver Services that contains all of the data elements
  visible on the face and back of a driver's license or identification card and
  displays the current status of the driver's license or identification card,
  including valid, expired, cancelled, suspended, revoked, active, or inactive;

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nverno|2 years ago

Yea that's BS. I didn't have any ID till I was 16 and got a driver's license. A lot of kids, like city kids, don't get one till years later. Are they planning to create a new type of ID for children? I wouldn't want my kids anywhere near social media either, but I wouldn't want to rely on the state to track and police their behaviour.

ruune|2 years ago

Another reason why a simple ID which only purpose is being an ID might be useful. No more non-driver drivers licenses

astura|2 years ago

New ID? Nothing new needed, anyone, child or adult, can get a non-driver's id from the DMV. Just need the proper paperwork.

People I grew up with generally started working at 14 and that's when they'd get one. A friend of mine has state IDs for all of her elementary aged children - I assume she needed them for some reason at some point.

Thorrez|2 years ago

The law intentionally bans people under 18 (unless they get parental permission). So people under 16 not having IDs doesn't matter I don't think, since even if they did have IDs they would still be banned (unless they get parental permission).

jjeaff|2 years ago

I don't see any reason they would need to create an id for children because the purpose of this law is to block all children under the age of 18 from using certain social media. You would only need an ID to prove that you are 18 or older.

vhold|2 years ago

In particular I would like people to consider the implications of "state approved application"

Strom|2 years ago

> Any commercially reasonable age verification method.

Is being born in 1900-01-01 still reasonable? The linked document remains extremely vague about what is reasonable.

politician|2 years ago

It’s ludicrous that proof of ability to operate a motor vehicle is positioned as a prerequisite for using the Internet—- more so given the myriad of ways that a license can be suspended.

rootusrootus|2 years ago

Where did you get that it has to be a driver's license? Just get a regular ID card if you don't need to be able to drive.

__MatrixMan__|2 years ago

> connectivity to the internet through a state approved application

I'm not sure how that will come together, but I hope that circumventing it causes the kids to learn something useful.

rvz|2 years ago

Yes. YouTube already does this KYC verification with age restricted content. Not a big surprise reveal here.

Meta will probably follow suit with Meta Verified as well for both Facebook and Instagram.

A4ET8a8uTh0|2 years ago

Yeah. A lot would depend on implementation, but it would concern me -- likely worst case being hack to access all SOS DL info..