[rajin444]

There’s also a strain of anti intellectualism that assumes every human should be forced through 12ish years of schooling and every human should achieve the same base level of results.

Public education for all is not much different than the American idea of “temporarily embarrassed millionaires”.

Leave education for those that either want or can benefit from it. Come up with more efficient systems for the rest of the masses.

[flangola7]

The expectation of universal results has problems, but universal education is one of the most crucial cornerstones of developed society. Culture and innovation blossom from it like flowers in rich fertile soil. There's a reason humans have fought (sometimes literally) for access to an education.

[quacked]

Culture and innovation blossom from human knowledge, not formal state-mandated education systems. Today, as throughout history, most "culture and innovation" (as measured by inventions, companies, researchers, art, philosophy, etc.) spring from men and women who break ties with their "educations" and instead strike out on their own in the search of truth.

We both agree that a literate and highly knowledgeable citizenry is paramount to the success of society, but the current western education model is failing to produce that citizenry. This failure is in part because professional educators remain unaware that universal education did not create developed societies, rather developed societies created universal education.

Information alone is insufficient to instill individuals with the character necessary to create great societies. The citizenry must already be strong-willed and self-determined for education to successfully add serious value to their lives. Those are the people who fight for their education. Many students today instead fight to avoid learning anything, because the system they're trapped inside has become so odious and hampered by redundancy, inefficiency, and a total lack of humanity.

[mnky9800n]

I went to hippie boarding school where I had no science and one math class between the ages of 11 and 18. Most of my time was spent doing other stuff. Now I have a PhD in physics and work as a research scientist. School is a joke and prepares you for nothing. Although I suppose you could say I was prepared for the path I wanted. Perhaps the deeper take away is that educational preparation is much more complex then simply exposing young people to content they will learn more deeply later. Who knows.