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thehumanmeat | 2 years ago

Just because it is a gambling den, doesn't mean there aren't truly revolutionary ideas and projects in there. Same as 2000 tech.

The argument can go both ways.

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Eisenstein|2 years ago

Sure, there could be. Where are they and what have they revolutionized besides gambling?

yieldcrv|2 years ago

I think that question relies on looking at how any infrastructure that gets mentioned also supports the people gambling. And then it relies on "revolutionizes" to be a greater improvement than an arbitrary metric.

Reason I point that out is there are somethings I like, that I don't find comparable to other services and just convenient, not necessarily revolutionary.

For example, give me a cloud platform that has the same pricing structure for developers. The pricing structure is that I only pay once application deployment, and then get unlimited reads at any amount of bandwidth for free, and all my users pay to update my variables and database, instead of me. That's not the case with GCP, Azure, AWS and anything non-blockchain that I've looked at. I like that development environment. I like that the users are willing to pay and have an insatiable demand of doing so. I don't care that the same application could work at orders of magnitude greater throughput on other cloud systems when the users now have to be found and then go through a 12-step funnel to be convinced to use credit card rails. So that observation is going to continue attractive developers and their whole networks.

I enjoy the instant collateralized lending. That's revolutionary in the sense that the speed is light years better.

I enjoy the price discovery that allows for the instant collateralized lending.

I enjoy the free and standardized API access that allows for the price discovery.

I enjoy being able to chain actions across distinct services. Especially consequential financial actions, but also not necessarily.

I enjoy being able to simulate the state of the entire economy, to see what affects what. Since you can branch off of a blockheight and prod locally.

I like that there's enough people there for any of this to matter. I'm not someone that needs the "revolutionizes" and "a billion users" goal posts. I think its right for people to be disillusioned by crypto enthusiast's ideological claims. Its still financial services, merely because there are finances to service. The same as how the non-crypto financial services industry works (the largest industry on the planet). It doesn't have to have utility to you, it just needs to reduce friction for the people that are already there, and there are lots now.

This doesn’t require the decentralization or chains, just the same development environment and distributed use of it amongst many organizations. But without the speculation component and confidence in the system, that won’t happen, in the mean time this exists and its fine.