[protortyp]

To me, Obsidian really became the killer app overall. I used Notion and Foam before and while the interface there is much more beautiful, I like having my files locally (synced via Syncthing) and being able to write my own plugins easily. The existing plugin ecosystem with instances like Dataview or Templater makes Obsidian such a great solution for personal and work planning, and as a knowledge base.

The only thing that's really missing is a collaborative version of Obsidian to be able to work in teams. I found craft.do that has a very similar feel, but it's quite pricey and, of course, you can't self-host.

[whats_a_quasar]

Plug for a friend who is building this exact thing - a tool that makes Obsidian collaborative, and also allows syncing between Obsidian / Roam / Notion

https://samepage.network/

[uptownfunk]

It looks good. Couple questions:

1/ how do you support hierarchical organization. The links let you show relationships but how do you get to a hierarchical representation

2/ at some point this knowledge graph must become large and unwieldy, how do you manage that?

[protortyp]

I primarily use folders and the dataview plugin [1] for 1). E.g. when I am managing a course, I have a structure like so:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5mbcuu2pyy7eb3o/folder-structure.p...

I usually have a top-level note for a course, here the "Computational Surgineering.md". In there, I use the dataview plugin to simply create a dynamic table of all entries in the meetings subfolder:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wk8jjldlohg6bf3/dataview.png?dl=0

Another option I use is nested tags[2], like #cs/meeting for the above use-case.

As for 2) I don't really use the global graph that much. It looks quite cool, but I primarily just look at a local graph with a maximum depth of 2-3 to quickly hop around.

[1] https://github.com/blacksmithgu/obsidian-dataview

[2] https://help.obsidian.md/Editing+and+formatting/Tags

Edit: Formatting is horrible on HN. I posted screenshots instead.

[kirso]

I use obsidian, but it can never trump the databases approach of notion in some cases. Its still pretty useless for TODOs IMO whilst being great at local first MD editor.

[charles_f]

Can't you just use a file share as your common vault for the team to use?

[bad_username]

It inevitably gets ugly when notes are edited by a few people simultaneously. Unless there is specific logic for automatic conflict resolution or concurrent editing, it devolves into chaos. File sharing tools typically do not have that, besides creating endless "conflict files" that require manual merging. The friction is just too high.