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pdc56 | 2 years ago

If two people are in a car, 50% of them are driving.

If 100 people are on a train, 1% of them are driving.

My point here is that even trains with drivers can be considered close to driver less vs people driving cars.

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onethought|2 years ago

So Self driving is door to door. Train suffers from the same problems as "last mile delivery" (i.e it skips the hard part).

arcticbull|2 years ago

Most successful transit systems are a short couple minutes walk to the train station, bus stop or streetcar. No further than walking from the parking lot to your destination in a lot of cases.

Cars are really only 'door to door' in the suburbs when commuting between two homes with driveways. Otherwise they're no different than a decent transit system.

I do find it interesting how people automatically assume all driving is door-to-door, forget about parking lots, forget about finding street parking, etc. and immediately talk about how transit can't work based on the same issue.

JumpCrisscross|2 years ago

> even trains with drivers can be considered close to driver less vs people driving cars

In a sense. That also applies to planes and cruise ships. All remain labor constrained.

That’s the vision of self-driving cars. Door to door and scale free. Trains approximate that for the masses, most of the time. But they don’t for the long tail.