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flamebreath447 | 2 years ago

It might not be a popular opinion but all the comments about cultural differences, or needing to be careful with communication seem wrong to me.

Someone offering you a gift to pay shouldn’t come off as rude or a power play of wealth. It shouldn’t be a surprise to you that some people are more well off. If a kind gesture makes you feel awkward, guilty or lesser that’s insecurity on you, not them.

Maybe, just maybe, you are bad at receiving gifts.

Let’s be charitable and stop assuming people are doing something weird. Yes we can communicate better but we don’t need to walk on eggshells just to be kind to friends.

I absolutely love treating friends. I intentionally invite people to dinner, don’t tell them ahead of time that I’m paying so they order exactly what they would have normally. I excuse myself to the restroom and ask the waiter to use my card at the end.

The few times I’ve had people had an issue or feel bad, I was extremely clear with them that

1. I want to, it brings me joy to give my friends gifts 2. I do not expect anything in return, I just wanted to spend time and enjoy a dinner with them 3. I purposely budget to do this, it’s the same as me inviting them over for cooked dinner 4. If they are deeply hurt or bothered by it I have no problem with them paying the portion and won’t do it again if it wasn’t something that made them feel cared for or enjoyed

I’ve never had anyone ever come back to point (4)

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stcroixx|2 years ago

To me, it’s respectful to offer the intended recipients of your gift the choice to accept or not rather than forcing something on them they didn’t consent to.

flamebreath447|2 years ago

So is it disrespectful to want to gift someone a meal? I don’t understand why it has to be so black and white.

Also the consent thing really sounds weird. Do you honestly go around making value judgements about when people did or did not seek your consent to this level of granularity? Why?

Again I think if the first place you go to when offered a free, meaningful and well intended gift is consent, you internally have an issue that you need to handle.

DangitBobby|2 years ago

The good thing about consent in this case is they can just "return" the gift by paying you their portion of the bill, and if they don't consent isn't really violated. You went from owing the restaurant to owing them.

But why take the joys of life and make them difficult? Let your friend enjoy himself by being generous.

sneak|2 years ago

Paying a bill isn't forcing anything on anyone. It literally doesn't involve them, it's between the payer (the gift giver) and the payee (the restaurant).