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Freire_Herval | 2 years ago

I agree that it will lead us to a bad place.

But here's the problem. This saying: "Humans are not special" is completely true. To deny this idea is to deny the truth.

Ultimately to save ourselves, our culture must engage in self deception. We must trick ourselves into believing that AI content is inferior and thereby maintain economic demand for content not created by AI. I can see it happening as a mass hysteria similar to how the public was resistant against "new coke" (https://www.damninteresting.com/the-american-gustation-crisi...)

You will see that many people, including people on HN, are already doing this. There's a large cohort of people generating huge adamant denial on the potential of AI.

The OP is sort of being a bit too honest with himself, most people who flat out refuse to acknowledge AI will do so with the idea that AI is inferior and will always be that way.

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JohnFen|2 years ago

> This saying: "Humans are not special" is completely true. To deny this idea is to deny the truth.

That's your truth. Humans get to decide what humans consider special. Your perspective is fair: humans are not special to you.

But they are certainly special to me and most other humans. That's my truth. That's not denying some objective truth, because "specialness" isn't an objective thing that can be measured. It's, effectively, an opinion.

You and I measure "specialness" differently.

But even if I agreed with you (and I could easily argue your side of this debate), it still wouldn't affect my attitude towards AI pretending to be human. Humans don't have to be special in some grand sense to consider that problematic.

Freire_Herval|2 years ago

>That's not denying some objective truth, because "specialness" isn't an objective thing that can be measured. It's, effectively, an opinion.

Well then let's talk about what I mean by "special".

If I gave you some art whether it's written, drawn or filmed and I asked you to tell me whether this "art" was created by a human and an AI, and you have trouble identifying the difference... then objectively speaking humans are no longer special. That is the definition I am using here.

There's no point in making up "opinions" and discussing those because they will always be different. Thus when communicating we are always talking about a shared reality. That includes the "term" special. I have defined what I mean by "special" here concretely so we can keep the conversation consistent rather then diverge onto branches according to our own personal definitions of "special".

>Humans don't have to be special in some grand sense to consider that problematic.

I never said it wasn't problematic. I said it was truth. The truth is the problem. Being honest and aware of reality is the intrinsic problem here. Being delusional is the cure.