[apnew]

I also _rent_. I hate food cooked on electric stoves, so when I was looking to rent, anything that dint have gas stove was automatic non-starter for me.

This whole argument that “you oppose a forced choice so you must hate poor people” is just a straw-man. Just because you prefer things one way doesn’t mean govt has a business telling me how I should cook my food.

[crooked-v]

I suspect you're conflating resistance cooktops (the kind with coils that heat up) and induction cooktops (which use EM fields to transfer energy directly into the pan). Resistance cooktops are slow and weak, but induction cooktops are just plain better than gas (faster to heat across the entire temperature range, better temperature control) in pretty much every case except when needing a pan that doesn't fit the induction plate (like a round-bottom wok).

[rayiner]

Yeah, and if you’re talking about poor people, what electric stove will their apartment have, resistance or induction? And will they have induction safe cookware?

Banning gas stoves would be a huge blow to all the immigrants who rely on cooking techniques (like woks) that don’t work well on resistance coils, and require expensive special equipment to work on induction.

[eulgro]

> Resistance cooktops are slow and weak

Resistive is just fine. No way I'm throwing out my 20 years old stove to save 2 minutes boiling water. Once the coil is red hot there's virtually no time difference with induction.

[otterley]

Induction cooktops are like 3-5x the cost of resistive ones, and so very few homes for rent -even ones with electric cooktops - have them.

[AdamJacobMuller]

And if the government mandates electric stoves, which of those (restive or inductive) do you think the landlords of cheaper apartments are going to pick?

[zajio1am]

> induction cooktops are just plain better than gas

I generally prefer induction to gas, but there is one disadvantage - uneven heating of large thin pans. On induction, a part of pan directly above coils can be > 50 degC hotter than its border. This can be mitigated by using pans with thick bottom with good heat conductivity, but then you get higher thermal inertia.

[swearwolf]

Resistance cooktops are fine too, you just have to learn to adjust to them. I’ve had one in all but one home I’ve ever lived in, and it’s second nature at this point. Every time I try to cook on a gas stove I burn whatever I’m making until I remember how to use them.

[kleiba]

This is such baloney - there's so many way more relevant factors to the taste of food then which power source was used to provide heat. I bet if you did a blind tasting you'd not be able to tell the difference.

[balderdash]

When people say they don’t like electric stoves, what they are saying is that they don’t like the PROCESS of cooking on an electric stove, and hence the results are not as good

[quadrifoliate]

> many way more relevant factors to the taste of food then which power source was used to provide heat.

Yeah, but not many more relevant ones to the actual cooking.

> I bet if you did a blind tasting you'd not be able to tell the difference.

You can't do a blind cooking. How often do you cook food on the stove yourself? If you do cook quite often and still insist that gas and electric stoves are equivalent, I'd be very surprised.

Now I definitely don't want to say that I definitely can't do without gas stoves — if they have a negative health and environmental impact, I could be easily convinced to switch to induction stoves, for example. But electric really don't cut it in my experience.

[osigurdson]

How did we ever get to the point where we think it is fine to tell someone else how something tastes?

[apnew]

I’m gonna take your comment at it’s most charitable interpretation instead of getting hung up on your unnecessary emotional first line. There exists a lot of culinary processes outside of one’s personal bubble.

Please let me know what you’re willing to bet and we’ll take this forward.

[uwagar]

i like to roast my aubergine for babaganoush on an open flame. try that on an induction cooker and let me know?

[bombcar]

All I know is I've yet to see an all-electric commercial kitchen.

I assume they exist somewhere, but I've yet to see one.

[lostlogin]

Do you really think you can tell the difference between food cooked with electricity and food cooked with gas?

[ramraj07]

I am pro banning gas stoves but that doesn’t mean electric is great. Electric sucks ass, even ignoring some things you just cannot do without gas (like make proper rotis) their heating is slow and uneven. At the least induction is fast.

[AustinDev]

Have you ever used induction? Electric induction is the best cooktop I've ever owned, and I was a staunch only gas person beforehand. Plus I can boil water on it faster than is possible in any gas stove @ 5kW (on the 'power' element). It can do a gallon of water in ~ 4 minutes from room temperature or a liter in about a minute it's pretty awesome.

[apnew]

I have; while your/everyone’s point in this thread is valid there are some food items that just cant be made same way on electric cooktops.

eg : https://www.alamy.com/preparingindian-rotifulkachapati-puffe...

I have lived with induction cooktop (in Europe) for 3 yrs and resistive cooktops (in US) for ~3yrs as well.

[jjj123]

The parent’s comment was also saying that gas stoves are essentially a forced choice on poor people who don’t have many options when looking for a place to rent.

Just because you theoretically have more choice in a free market doesn’t mean you actually do, depending on how desperate you are.

[apnew]

Well then the solution is to mandate a hood that cleans the said toxic gas/es out. And if we were being serious at all; there is always a habitability clause in the rental agreements which can be used to mandate the hoods where gas ranges exists. No new laws/regulations needed.

But those would be too good of solutions and spoil the current sneaky plan. Too many goal posts are shifting for justifying a performative-feel-good-climate fight (the point the top-level comment is trying to make).

There is no pure free-market anywhere (and it's a good thing). Let's not justify govt overreach in the garb of imperfect market-capitalism.

[alex_lav]

...isn't "but i like my food cooked on the other kind" just the same thing you're arguing against?

[apnew]

But I am not taking a position that govt bans the other side's fav style, am I now?

[desmosxxx]

require them in rentals?