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yata69420 | 2 years ago

100% agree. Also I bucket "free" into "data harvesting", "actually gratis", or "libre".

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msla|2 years ago

> Also I bucket "free" into "data harvesting", "actually gratis", or "libre".

Yes, and beware of the people who want you to ignore the second two categories. "If you aren't the customer, you're the product" is an insidious way to make you think there's no escape from being monetized, while simultaneously lying to you by saying you won't be a product if you pay using money. It's pretty universal that paying customers are a product sold to bigger customers, and I'm very wary of the motives of anyone who wants me to forget that.

phantomathkg|2 years ago

Curious, what is the difference between "actually gratis" and "libre"?

godshatter|2 years ago

Not the parent poster, but I'm assuming "actually gratis" means "free as in beer" (doesn't cost money, presumably with no data harvesting) while "libre" means "free as in speech" (open source license of some kind).