[tedkalaw]

If you haven’t heard of the Kia boys over here in the states, it’s definitely something. This vid is…a bit controversial but the Kia boys are definitely a thing in Milwaukee:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbTrLyqL_nw

[finikytou]

please do not assume what a black person would think. also, there isn't a "black" person. I know its hard for many "nice liberals" but black people are diverse and do not share a monoculture or single thoughts. stop generalizing over race or even skin color. that is way more racist than op comment.

[mjevans]

You are wrong to focus on the color of someone's skin.

Classism is the issue. Opportunity is the issue. Greed of the wealthy reaping rents in a quest to squeeze out every last bit of blood money possible is the issue.

Even the choice to forego a proper security system for the cars is an example of greed, of cutting every corner possible and still charging a premium. Who pays? On both ends of this equation it is the poor.

[concordDance]

This is a rather heat generating post (as opposed to light).

I think the things that cause this are:

* References to some supposed collective discourse ("so many refuse to discuss this.").

* Statements about what "we" do (who is "we"? Americans? Anglos? English speakers? The world?).

* Heavily political topic central to the USA Culture War.

* Use of (USA) identity group divisions ("white", "black").

I think this is a really unproductive line of discourse and a particularly bad way of approaching that line, focusing on consensus building and a call to action (in this case, a change of discourse). I think this post is unsuitable for hackernews.

[Glawen]

> It's taboo to address this because of the color of their skin.

Indeed, I wish one day we backtrack on this stupidity. Name and shame regardless of colour and stop this imposed self censorship.

[pjc50]

> If these were white kids we'd publicly shame them, crack down on the worst offenders, and figure out a program to help the rest back on track.

The problem is that black kids get publicly shamed and cracked down on when they haven't done anything, making that ineffective, and nobody bothers with the third part of actual programs to help them.

[kotaKat]

The easier solution would be for TikTok et al to have proper moderation controls and have nipped this in the bud when the first video dropped, but ByteDance just wants to instill chaos in the American public so they don't care one iota.

[Arainach]

>If these were white kids we'd publicly shame them, crack down on the worst offenders, and figure out a program to help the rest back on track. They're black so we don't, and this is somehow less racist. I do not understand it.

Would we? This is merely grand theft auto, not rape or murder, so why would we treat them worse than Brock Turner or Kyle Rittenhouse? If they were white, why not give them a book deal?

[sumedh]

> If these were white kids we'd publicly shame them

Not sure why you want make this a black and white issue.

So instead of stealing cars do you want them to destroy the economy and get bailouts or steal college seats from deserving candidates by just buying college admissions, you want them to do "respectable" crimes?