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CyberWraith | 2 years ago

What's wrong with incels? are they bad people because they can't find a relationship? what?

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vkou|2 years ago

They aren't bad people because they can't find a relationship.

But a lot of them act in bad ways because they believe/have been told to believe that their difficulty in finding a relationship is someone else's fault.

This often makes them utterly insufferable to be around, which is a positive feedback loop.

And then, hey, look, here's a disaffected community of angry young men, all feeling that society has taken a great big dump on them, all ripe for radicalization by some cynical ideologue.

ben_w|2 years ago

As with all groups, the loudest are the least well-adjusted.

Thus, while it may linguistically be the western version of some exotic-sounding Japanese word that translates as "single adult", the implication is the exact opposite causality of your question: they are single because they are bad, not vice-versa.

mrangle|2 years ago

And yet it applies to everyone who is without a partner. Not just to the loud ones. Your supposed implication seems to be something that another certain loud group desires. Not something that can be inferred by any interpretation of the English language that I was ever able to discern.

burnished|2 years ago

People who havent found a relationship are just people. People that base their identity on being an incel, in which celibacy is a status that is inflicted on them, tend to hold a cluster of beliefs that express as anger towards women as a class (for withholding sex from them) and an unwillingness to engage in honest self reflection and growth.

It is common to see some one with that mindset to see outcomes as inevitable or as a function of things wholly out of their control such as looks or a perceived social dynamic involving 'chads' and 'staceys' that they are ineluctably locked out of.

Just some real bad vibes.

nemothekid|2 years ago

>are they bad people because they can't find a relationship?

They are bad people because incel forums are normally filled with crab-bucket mentality users who regurgitate highly misogynistic tropes up until the edge of being openly violent to women.

If you are unable to see the misogyny towards woman in many incel communities for whatever reason, at the very least I would say that they are bad for men because they tend to grow by reinforcing the idea that their community will never be good enough, that there is nothing that they can do, and it is the fault of society for all their problems.

CyberWraith|2 years ago

Incels have killed more men than women, look up Elliot Rodger among others. I don't think anyone's a misogynist.

scambier|2 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

The first paragraph speaks for itself. The whole "involuntary" part of "incel" implies that your celibacy - the fact that people don't want you as a partner - is totally out of your control. Incels are the epitome of "nice guys".

CyberWraith|2 years ago

Our looks and society's beauty standards are not in our hands. Seems like they're right.

fknorangesite|2 years ago

Playing dumb is not a good look.

CyberWraith|2 years ago

Still haven't answered what's wrong with incels

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