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Mike_12345 | 2 years ago

> I firmly believe that psychedelics are triggers and not the cause of mental disorders

If a neurotoxic drug such as cannabis causes psychosis in someone who would otherwise never have become psychotic without the drug, then whether you call it a cause or a trigger is quibbling over semantics.

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mandmandam|2 years ago

Sorry, neurotoxic?

That's not a settled debate; not remotely.

There are many reasons to believe cannabis is neuroprotective. Especially when using safe, high CBD, high cannabinoid varieties; a rather vital distinction.

And it's not semantics, because you can't make the assumption that people would "never have become psychotic without the drug". On a population scale, such an effect would have stood out by now if it had much strength at all.

Mike_12345|2 years ago

> That's not a settled debate; not remotely.

In my opinion it is neurotoxic, based on studies I have seen (such as this one that we are commenting on) plus my own direct personal experience. Even without the psychoactive components, the smoke is carcinogenic (like tobacco) and toxic to all cells, including neurons. Go take a massive bong hit, then tell me your mind and lungs feel healthy. Cannabis is blatantly toxic filth.

> because you can't make the assumption that people would "never have become psychotic without the drug"

Somehow you are ignoring the entire point of the article/study that we are commenting on.

xupybd|2 years ago

That's an interesting question. Could someone have a serious mental health disorder that would never manifest without certain triggers.

I'm not qualified to guess but I suspect it would be possible. Then if it's possible the rate that it happens would be important. If it's rare then it might not be important in the discussion of causes of mental health problems.

Mike_12345|2 years ago

Isn't that the entire point of the article and study that we are commenting on?

progmetaldev|2 years ago

It has not been proven to be neurotoxic, so I'm not so sure over your reference of semantics. I only consume edibles, as the smoke is too harsh for my lungs. This study does not have a definitive answer as to whether cannabis is actually the cause or trigger for schizophrenia.

Mike_12345|2 years ago

Go to Google Scholar and search for "neurotoxicity of cannabis"

You can find studies showing that even pure THC is neurotoxic. It depends on dosage and frequency.