[Mike_12345]

> That's not a settled debate; not remotely.

In my opinion it is neurotoxic, based on studies I have seen (such as this one that we are commenting on) plus my own direct personal experience. Even without the psychoactive components, the smoke is carcinogenic (like tobacco) and toxic to all cells, including neurons. Go take a massive bong hit, then tell me your mind and lungs feel healthy. Cannabis is blatantly toxic filth.

> because you can't make the assumption that people would "never have become psychotic without the drug"

Somehow you are ignoring the entire point of the article/study that we are commenting on.

[mandmandam]

> Cannabis is blatantly toxic filth

No, it isn't. It's medicine, and remarkably harmless recreation. It saves many lives, and enhances quality of life for millions of people. It has a smorgasbord of health benefits.

It does have side effects, and drawbacks. It's not a panacea, and it doesn't suit every one. It's not for kids (except when it's medically worth it).

But calling it "blatantly toxic filth" is wildly inflammatory... Which is funny, because cannabis reduces inflammation. With far less toxic effects than most anti-inflammatories.

> you are ignoring the entire point of the article/study that we are commenting on.

I disagree with the methods and conclusion. As do plenty of people here, who have pointed out the flaws with the article and the study, for example, the very serious correlation/causation issues.

To talk about schizophrenia and cannabis without ever mentioning CBD is remarkably dishonest. THC concentration merits a single sideways mention. This is bad science and worse journalism, and it smells like big pharma.

Which wouldn't surprise me at all. Cannabis hurts their profits. Painkiller use goes way down after legalization and decriminalization - as do prescription painkiller deaths.

[xupybd]

Most medicine is toxic to some degree. It's all about the cost vs the reward.

I like sugar, salt and caffeine. I consume them to a degree that causes me low lever physical harm. I enjoy them and am happy with the cost. Many cannabis users do the same with cannabis but some seems to think it's a magic cure all. I'm strongly sceptical of such claims.

[Mike_12345]

> No, it isn't. It's medicine, and remarkably harmless recreation.

Try reading the article before commenting.

[CapstanRoller]

>plus my own direct personal experience

How do you measure neurotoxicity on yourself?

>Go take a massive bong hit, then tell me your mind and lungs feel healthy.

Smoking is far from the only way to consume cannabis.

>the smoke is carcinogenic (like tobacco)

All smoke is carcinogenic, because it is smoke. This is not a function of cannabis, but a function of organic matter.

[Mike_12345]

> How do you measure neurotoxicity on yourself?

If you consume it, and it subjectively and objectively harms your mental health and cognitive abilities, then basic common sense and reasoning tells you it is harmful to the brain (neurotoxic).

This is my opinion based on my experience. If you smoked this shit and it gave you an extra 20 IQ point boost, then congratulations.

> All smoke is carcinogenic, because it is smoke.

That's the point. Neurons don't get healthier from carcinogens.