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EngManagerIsMe | 2 years ago

I live in Seattle, it's cold and rainy all year long (more or less). I still prefer using my bike over a car (though I have no problem with small car that replaces big car.)

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munificent|2 years ago

I also live in Seattle, bike to work three days a week, and don't mind biking in the rain and cold.

Even so, I think mobility vehicles like this are excellent and should absolutely be part of our transportation systems. Sometimes you:

* Have a disability that prevents you from biking.

* Need to pick something up from the store that won't fit in your paniers.

* Want to bring a passenger who doesn't bike.

* Need to bring a small child who can't bike or doesn't have the endurance.

* Need to carry something you can't get wet and won't fit in your panniers.

* Are going somewhere nice and need to arrive without your hair and clothing discheveled.

* Won't have a safe place to park a bike.

* Need to leave something with your vehicle and want to be able to lock it away.

There is a reason cars are so popular. They are amazingly useful and convenient. I dislike arguments against cars because so many of them try to downplay the benefits as if car consumers are idiots. The benefits are real and profound. The problem with cars isn't that they aren't as great as people think they are. It's that the externalities often don't make the benefits worth it.

Any vehicle that can give you many of those same benefits while reducing those externalities should be applauded.

thewebcount|2 years ago

Thank you so much for posting this sane response. As the spouse of someone who can't walk due to a disability (and also can't move themselves in a wheelchair), reading these discussions where people assume everyone is young, able-bodied, and lives in great weather gets really tiresome. It often feels like they're intentionally not arguing in good faith because some of the points are so obviously incorrect.

EngManagerIsMe|2 years ago

Of course. I explicitly tried to say this -- bikes are fantastic, small cars like this are ok too (though, building for cars carries a lot of externalities with it).

PaulDavisThe1st|2 years ago

> it's cold and rainy all year long (more or less

End of May - September, Seattle is the 5th driest metro in the USA, with temperatures in the range that most people consider "ideal".

Good effort trying to perpetuate the story told to outsiders, though. (I lived there for 7 years).

EngManagerIsMe|2 years ago

I've lived here 35+ years. I mean, May-September can be nice, though these days that's smoke season.

dmoy|2 years ago

It's hardly ever cold in Seattle to the point where biking isn't ideal.

This is exactly what GP is getting at. We have a warped view of "cold" here on the west coast, because "cold" to us means 0C, not -30C ~ -40C.

swalling|2 years ago

You are weird. I am a born-and-raised PNW resident and a very small proportion of the population can tolerate having to wear a rain suit to bike home from work or go to the grocery store for 6-8 months of the year.

EngManagerIsMe|2 years ago

I'm not sure I'm weird. I've been here 35+ years at this point, plenty of folks bike, plenty of folks public transit, plenty of folks drive.

Putting on a pair of snow pants over my jeans and a waterproof shell over my jacket takes... 1 minute? and protects me from basically all our weather.