[agonmon]

I appreciate their sacrifice, though I'm afraid that in most cases it is dysgenic. It's going to be intense for our descendents in a couple generations when the gene pool is only left with high fecundity actors. The real resource wars will start then.

[pokstad]

How is it sacrifice? Many people simply don’t want kids or can’t afford them. Has little to do with sacrifice.

[agonmon]

1. The people that don't want kids, cannot accurately model what it is like having kids. Your brain and hormonal output changes after a birth.

2. Children aren't that expensive unless the parents are playing status games (e.g. acting rich), and statistically it's poorer people that end up having more kids.

On the topic of sacrifice: One of my kids is just starting to stand up, and is using my shirt to pull herself up while squealing in triumph and delight. It's hard to express the fulfillment and existential meaning provided from children.

If I was told I would have to give them all up, it would be a soul-crushing sacrifice. Irrecoverable.

[smegsicle]

> Many people simply don’t want kids

there's a bit of a gender disparity in that group. three obvious solutions:

1. not care that most of this 1/5 of women are missing out on something they want

2. legalize and normalize polygamy

3. redirect culture to 'man up' and help provide families for the women who want them

other (esoteric?) solutions?

[sourcecodeplz]

I think it is actually selfish because you were given the greatest gift of all, life, and you should "pay it forward".

[hsbauauvhabzb]

Well it wont be my descendants taking part in the resource war. Maybe the problem isn’t the people choosing not to breed.

[agonmon]

I have many smart, empathetic friends in tech who are not having kids. Meanwhile my redneck neighbor has 5.

It seems to me that all of the conscientious people who look out for the greater good and environment, are leaving the gene pool. This feels like a problem for the future.

[s5300]

>> when the gene pool is only left with high fecundity actors. The real resource wars will start then.

I’ve become a bit convinced that we’re essentially going to see Incestuous Kings II except this time with feudal tech lords.

Quite a depressing future if that ends up being it. Working class probably needs to get around to killing some bad actors sooner or later.

[VirusNewbie]

You think working class people need to murder people? You may want to seek professional help if you actually believe this.