Early COVID-19 research found that most patients with optimum levels of vitamin D did not require ICU or breathing assistance and survived the infection.
This link doesn't relate to the research but is relevant. https://scitechdaily.com/study-finds-vitamin-d3-important-fo...
> Early COVID-19 research found that most patients with optimum levels of vitamin D did not require ICU or breathing assistance and survived the infection.
Some sources point out that only 10-20% cases of covid are admitted to intensive care unit, and 80-90% of cases are mild.
I seriously doubt that up to 90% of the population has "optimum levels of vitamin D".
> The study analyzed 585 patients in the intensive care unit (ICU) at Northwestern Memorial Hospital
Generalizing that to every hospital in the country or the world seems a bit hasty, to say the least, so "debunks" is clickbait. Of course the "contrarians" lapped it up. Personally, my takeaway is to avoid Northwestern Memorial Hospital.
I'll comment again on this - if the cytokine storm is "debunked", why did dexamethasone have such a positive effect on survival rate (as it's an immune system/inflammations suppressant). This, coupled with how ventilated patients were situated in bed increased survival rates. Recall, for the first few months "reefer trucks with dead people" keep appearing in the news, which sorta spurred trying literally anything that could keep people alive.
Fortunately, some existing meds worked, vaccines and treatments appeared with amazing speed and the virus's mutations worked in our favour. And Omicron eventually appeared.
VAP (ventilator associated pneumonia) is a known morbidity of mechanical ventilation. ICU protocols are much improved these days to combat it (oral hygiene, suctioning, early extubation protocols etc).
If a patient requiring a ventilator has 100% chance of dying without, or 50% chance of dying from secondary bacterial pneumonia. Then while it is true the use of ventialtors lead to deaths, it doesn't mean it caused more deaths than without
Not sure what you mean by over-eager. Patients are only intubated and placed on mechanical ventilation when they will die otherwise. There is a step wise increase in ventilatory support in these cases, starting at a nasal cannula, then increasing to face mask, then a positive pressure (CPAP) mask, and then if they are still hypoxic or hypercarbic - intubation is the next step.
This kind of comment makes me genuinely angry. It's exact opposite. Repeating this lie led to painful death.
My wife is an ICU physician. I traveled with her around the country during the COVID pandemic to help provide moral support for what was a very difficult job. One of the most common, heart breaking stories were the patients who were wrongly told by their friends or the internet they were going to die if they were intubated. Now, it is your right to refuse intubation just as it is your right to refuse resuscitation. That said, my wife would recommend intubation if it was warranted and these patients would flat refuse because of information like this. Then, she would watch them slowly and painfully decompensate day by day. Weaker and weaker. Then, when they were at death's door, they would universally reverse their refusal of intubation and ask her to do everything. At this point, my wife would hold their cell phone while they video chatted their husbands, and wives, and parents, and children. Tell them how much they loved them. Then, they would crash and my wife would frantically try to intubate them and keep them alive. At this point, they had no reserves. Most of them died.
No physician in their right mind recommends intubation without cause. It's a procedure. It carries risk. However, it is vastly easier to do in a controlled setting before someone has no reserves and is crashing. It means that they could give the patients lungs a break, so they can heal.
I listened to these stories day after day after day and tried to support my wife as best as I could. Physicians are not perfect. They do make mistakes. They also have vastly more experience dealing with the intricacies of care. That said, comments like this one absolutely killed people. People who didn't need to die. That was and still is wrong.
You didn't need machine learning to let people know that it was mostly pneumonia, just common sense. These results are still good news, though, as it does provide further confirmation to what was already really obvious from the very beginning. The pseudoscientists in the pseudoscientific field of virology just slapped a label of Covid 19 to anything that shared similar symptoms to any winter associated illness prior to the religious fake Covid 19 hysteria, including pneumonia.
[+] [-] helph67|2 years ago|reply
[+] [-] hammock|2 years ago|reply
Most patients survived Covid regardless of their vitamin D levels
[+] [-] simplotek|2 years ago|reply
Some sources point out that only 10-20% cases of covid are admitted to intensive care unit, and 80-90% of cases are mild.
I seriously doubt that up to 90% of the population has "optimum levels of vitamin D".
[+] [-] notacoward|2 years ago|reply
> The study analyzed 585 patients in the intensive care unit (ICU) at Northwestern Memorial Hospital
Generalizing that to every hospital in the country or the world seems a bit hasty, to say the least, so "debunks" is clickbait. Of course the "contrarians" lapped it up. Personally, my takeaway is to avoid Northwestern Memorial Hospital.
[+] [-] jleyank|2 years ago|reply
Fortunately, some existing meds worked, vaccines and treatments appeared with amazing speed and the virus's mutations worked in our favour. And Omicron eventually appeared.
[+] [-] hammock|2 years ago|reply
Which?
[+] [-] chrisco255|2 years ago|reply
This seems to imply that usage of ventilators promotes the development of bacterial pneumonia.
[+] [-] surgeryres|2 years ago|reply
[+] [-] Traubenfuchs|2 years ago|reply
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1592694/
[+] [-] gfodor|2 years ago|reply
[+] [-] refulgentis|2 years ago|reply
[+] [-] realjhol|2 years ago|reply
[+] [-] was_a_dev|2 years ago|reply
If a patient requiring a ventilator has 100% chance of dying without, or 50% chance of dying from secondary bacterial pneumonia. Then while it is true the use of ventialtors lead to deaths, it doesn't mean it caused more deaths than without
[+] [-] surgeryres|2 years ago|reply
[+] [-] kxyvr|2 years ago|reply
My wife is an ICU physician. I traveled with her around the country during the COVID pandemic to help provide moral support for what was a very difficult job. One of the most common, heart breaking stories were the patients who were wrongly told by their friends or the internet they were going to die if they were intubated. Now, it is your right to refuse intubation just as it is your right to refuse resuscitation. That said, my wife would recommend intubation if it was warranted and these patients would flat refuse because of information like this. Then, she would watch them slowly and painfully decompensate day by day. Weaker and weaker. Then, when they were at death's door, they would universally reverse their refusal of intubation and ask her to do everything. At this point, my wife would hold their cell phone while they video chatted their husbands, and wives, and parents, and children. Tell them how much they loved them. Then, they would crash and my wife would frantically try to intubate them and keep them alive. At this point, they had no reserves. Most of them died.
No physician in their right mind recommends intubation without cause. It's a procedure. It carries risk. However, it is vastly easier to do in a controlled setting before someone has no reserves and is crashing. It means that they could give the patients lungs a break, so they can heal.
I listened to these stories day after day after day and tried to support my wife as best as I could. Physicians are not perfect. They do make mistakes. They also have vastly more experience dealing with the intricacies of care. That said, comments like this one absolutely killed people. People who didn't need to die. That was and still is wrong.
[+] [-] dbull900|2 years ago|reply