Yikes. That's way beyond the pale and not at all ok to post here, so please don't.
More generally, can you please not post flamebait to HN? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
Many bigots have jobs and produce economic value. Each bigot has a mother who loves them. Many bigots have children they sacrifice for and protect.
But most importantly, bigots can be redeemed. If you violently remove someone, they lose the potential for redemption.
That’s my general response to “what value do bigots have.”
But what about bigots who brought about exceptional change in the world. If they had been removed, violently, the world would be worse off. Karl Marx was a bigot, anti-Semite and Mark Twain too. Malcolm X was a bigot and furthered civil rights. LBJ was a bigot who passed the civil rights act. Lincoln was a bigot that ended slavery.
Bigotry is bad, but it’s not someone’s defining characteristic. We want to end bigotry and help people commit less bigotry.
Hate speech today is amplified by social networks that had been non-existent 20 years ago.
I would like to see what happens to your "free speech beliefs and how they don't affect you" if you happened to accidentally say something wrong on a video and then be bullied by thousands of nutties on the internet, including doxxing and swatting you on a regular basis.
> I would like to see what happens to your "free speech beliefs and how they don't affect you" if you happened to accidentally say something wrong on a video and then be bullied by thousands of nutties on the internet, including doxxing and swatting you on a regular basis.
Another comment supporting pain and suffering for the people they disagree with. "You are wrong that free speech does not have consequences" is a common anti-free-speech strawman, a dishonest tactic, and is not even remotely what I said
Tanjreeve|2 years ago
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dang|2 years ago
More generally, can you please not post flamebait to HN? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
prepend|2 years ago
But most importantly, bigots can be redeemed. If you violently remove someone, they lose the potential for redemption.
That’s my general response to “what value do bigots have.”
But what about bigots who brought about exceptional change in the world. If they had been removed, violently, the world would be worse off. Karl Marx was a bigot, anti-Semite and Mark Twain too. Malcolm X was a bigot and furthered civil rights. LBJ was a bigot who passed the civil rights act. Lincoln was a bigot that ended slavery.
Bigotry is bad, but it’s not someone’s defining characteristic. We want to end bigotry and help people commit less bigotry.
unknown|2 years ago
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uvnq|2 years ago
heavenlyblue|2 years ago
I would like to see what happens to your "free speech beliefs and how they don't affect you" if you happened to accidentally say something wrong on a video and then be bullied by thousands of nutties on the internet, including doxxing and swatting you on a regular basis.
uvnq|2 years ago
Another comment supporting pain and suffering for the people they disagree with. "You are wrong that free speech does not have consequences" is a common anti-free-speech strawman, a dishonest tactic, and is not even remotely what I said