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that sounds like a fantastic way to grow up. I wish I could raise my kid in this kind of community. permaculture has so much to offer people.

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I thought about working with 4-H to create a permaculture track.

I live in the city. I have been applying permaculture design principles to my back and front yard. I am exposing my kids to all of this, and it is not too late for you if that is what you want to do.

You have to do things a bit differently in the city, but you absolutely can apply the 12 design principles and 3 ethical principles.