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cyrux004 | 2 years ago

Show me where Steve jobs talks about internals of macbook components like the way Elon talks about spaceship rockets; then i will believe you you

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andyjohnson0|2 years ago

I'm not the person you replied to, but I'm struck by two things about that Reddit post. First, all but one of the quoted people who are engineers [1], are also Musk's subordinates. And second, there are suspiciously few (as in zero) dissenters listed.

I've no doubt Musk can talk convincingly about engines or whatever, and maybe even about physics, but I don't think he could function as a professional engineer. I'm just not getting the impression that he has much depth.

[1] discounting Carmack who is brilliant but is a different kind of engineer

darawk|2 years ago

Carmack is widely considered one of the greatest software engineers ever, and knows Musk well. Either he's outright lying to make his friend look good, or I'll take his opinion over basically anyone. He certainly isn't Musk's "subordinate" in any meaningful sense.

Even when Carmack was Zuckerberg's "subordinate" he was independently wealthy and could do whatever the fuck he wanted, and has been for a long time. You didn't see him going around, even then, talking up Zuckerberg's engineering chops. Despite the fact that we know Zuck did in fact write a lot of the early code for FB.

Carmack is also not a "different kind of engineer". Guy is primarily famous for his software, but he had a rocket company of his own, ran Meta's VR labs which involved quite a bit of hardware, etc.

deburo|2 years ago

You're basing this opinion on nothing but gut feeling.