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Jefro118 | 2 years ago

I would say things are worse but it's difficult to disentangle it from the other major events like Covid and the war. Also worth pointing out that the UK's economic stagnation began well before Brexit and goes back to the 2008 crash: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvPzCWYXwAEoIRu?format=jpg&name=....

As someone who supports Brexit, I always thought there would be greater costs in the short term but getting out of institutional structure of the EU would be beneficial long term, as long as we take advantage of the institutional freedom and try to get onto a different path as a country (investing heavily in science and technology, having a more rational approach to regulation, having an immigration system that attracts great talent while also controlling the borders and thus making the whole thing less toxic).

I haven't overall changed my view as the EU still seems to be on a very bad path as I see it, I can't say I'm hugely optimistic about the UK either though. There are glimmers of hope like the new ARIA institution for blue sky science, but the main political parties are a pretty depressing spectacle.

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tonyedgecombe|2 years ago

The trouble is the UK electorate has no appetite for the kind of changes that would make Brexit a success. Instead we are going to slowly creep back in over the coming decades. Having such a large trading block right on our doorstep makes that inevitable.

andrewstuart|2 years ago

In Australia no-one ever discussing anything about current propsperity in the context of "disentangling it from the other major events like Covid and the war".

Sure those are things, but we are not trying to make sense of current affairs through that lens as a major factor.

martindbp|2 years ago

> I would say things are worse but it's difficult to disentangle it from the other major events like [the pandemic] and the war.

It's just surreal to me that brexit is just in the top 3 events in the past few years.

theGnuMe|2 years ago

The big mistake was that the uk went with austerity in 2008.