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Bergrebell | 2 years ago

Thats a good point and nice to see that the rails community is starting to work to consider new engineers more. The whole JS and also PHP/Laravel ecosystem is doing this already since quite some time. Rails is still the best option imo when you want to be productive as a small team - but the learning resource don’t keep up with other frameworks/languages.

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kirso|2 years ago

This is my biggest gripe. I am learning programmning as a hobby, I don't have much time in a day but like to allocate at least 1-2 hours to practice.

When deciding on the language to learn, I really really wanted to go with Ruby and then transition to Rails. But it seems like educational materials are currently lacking, most of the tutorials on YouTube are outdated.

When investing in eco-system, I never looked at the availability of jobs. But when comparing say JS/TS vs Ruby, there is clearly a viable route to learn it as a beginner.

The downside is that there is a lot of trash and low quality materials as well as inhibited complexity - but after some time its not such a problem to sift through the noise.

avg_dev|2 years ago

i find this critique interesting, because i believe the initial momentum behind rails was sparked by a video about how to create a blog using rails without any setup in just a few minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzj723LkRJY

bdcravens|2 years ago

An almost 20 year old demo from the creator really doesn't address the issue of community resources. Any application of minimal complexity needs to solve problems that demo doesn't begin to address, and beginners need access to resources to guide them in solving those problems.

seattle_spring|2 years ago

Not to mention that Rails was the language-de-jour for most bootcamps between 2012 and 2017 or so. The problem was running into developers who only knew Rails, not finding ones that didn’t know it at all.

bongobingo1|2 years ago

Some how nostalgic for those plain invert-colours buttons that rails used to have. Also DHH's iconic "whuups!" every 2 minutes is pretty funny to relive.