[hendricius]

Agreed! Bread machines don't make sense. You can make a very simple dough in 1 minute of work. I recommend 500g whole rye or wheat, 400g water, 100g sourdough starter, 20g salt. Mix all with a spatula for 1 minute until no chunks of flour are left. Put into greased loaf pan. Wait until roughly doubled in size. Bake in the oven at 200°C until core temperature is 92°C.

[soperj]

I do 1.5 cups of water, 3 cups of flour, sourdough starter and some amount of salt that it around 1 or 2 teaspoons. Mix with a spatula for a minute as well, and then put a lid on it and leave it on the counter overnight. Bake at 500°F for 45 minutes in a dutch oven or a ceramic cookware that's loaf shaped.