While I don't doubt that "notebookcheck.net" does a better laptop review than The Guardian, I do consider the fact that The Guardian is reviewing this upstart laptop vendor to be independently notable.
I just bought a MacBook Air with M2 yesterday after careful evaluation of Framework 13 for my needs.
The tinkerer/engineer in me loves most things about Framework against the MacBook Air.
However, a big con was the lack of s2idle sleep and its impact on battery life. I use a Mac for work, and have been spoilt with a machine that lasts longer than a day, and reliably and fastly come back to life when I open the lid. Intel and AMD have crippled their CPUs to disable deep sleep states to prevent such bliss. I don’t want my laptop to lose power while it sits in my backpack and supposed to be doing nothing.
It’s a shame because it appears atleast the Ryzen CPU listed by framework claims to have almost caught up with the base M2. May be the younger version of me that had enough spare time to deal with unreliable sleep/resume troubles would have chosen Framework over the MacBook Air.
>It’s a shame because it appears atleast the Ryzen CPU listed by framework claims to have almost caught up with the base M2.
It really hasn't. Check idle watts, package watts under load, performance when unplugged, battery life, laptop chassis temperature. AMD's solutions do not come close.
"Very Loud Under Heavy Loads" ... I wonder how hard it is to tune that away. There is no particular need to let these CPUs ramp up to 60W. If it were up to me I would offer a U-series CPU option that can be configured down to 12W.
CameronNemo|2 years ago
reacharavindh|2 years ago
I just bought a MacBook Air with M2 yesterday after careful evaluation of Framework 13 for my needs.
The tinkerer/engineer in me loves most things about Framework against the MacBook Air.
However, a big con was the lack of s2idle sleep and its impact on battery life. I use a Mac for work, and have been spoilt with a machine that lasts longer than a day, and reliably and fastly come back to life when I open the lid. Intel and AMD have crippled their CPUs to disable deep sleep states to prevent such bliss. I don’t want my laptop to lose power while it sits in my backpack and supposed to be doing nothing.
It’s a shame because it appears atleast the Ryzen CPU listed by framework claims to have almost caught up with the base M2. May be the younger version of me that had enough spare time to deal with unreliable sleep/resume troubles would have chosen Framework over the MacBook Air.
pizza234|2 years ago
AFAIK it's not the CPUs, rather, the motherboards. I have two modern Ryzen systems; one supports S3 out of the box, the other requires some messing.
senttoschool|2 years ago
It really hasn't. Check idle watts, package watts under load, performance when unplugged, battery life, laptop chassis temperature. AMD's solutions do not come close.
jeffbee|2 years ago
fulafel|2 years ago
CameronNemo|2 years ago