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sunchild | 14 years ago

Yes, and never mind that just about everything you take for granted about personal computers was "given" by Apple, too. I find this notion that users are entitled to complete device freedom really annoying.

If you find it so objectionable, go build your own hardware and OS platform. This isn't a matter of human rights because no one is telling you that you can't make your own.

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icebraining|14 years ago

Yes, and never mind that just about everything you take for granted about personal computers was "given" by Apple, too.

The RDF is on full effect there, I see. You might want to look at systems like the Xerox Alto & Star, both released before the Lisa. The implementation was certainly excellent - and I have a lot of respect for the Lisa and Macintosh engineers - but many of the concepts were invented elsewhere.

sunchild|14 years ago

@cooldeal: Nope, I'm dead serious. There's no fundamental human right that entitles you to tell Apple (or any other device maker) what it can and can't sell you.

icebraining|14 years ago

Of course there is, it's called Free Speech. There's no right that entitles you to force Apple to do what you want, but then again, nobody's arguing for it.

vacri|14 years ago

... you really object to users stating what they want to have?

So... Apple generally gets kudos for 'giving users what they want', but users are not allowed to say what they want?

Nice work.

sunchild|14 years ago

@recoiledsnake: (for whatever reason, I'm not allowed to reply directly to you)

You're comparing Apple's ecosystem to Earth's.

Apple is a private company that makes products that are sold on the commercial markets. The Earth is something entirely different. If Apple made planets, then yes – they could decide how to manage the atmosphere. That's how business works.

icebraining|14 years ago

(for whatever reason, I'm not allowed to reply directly to you)

It's a cool-off period.

recoiledsnake|14 years ago

And if you don't like pollution and global warming, stop complaining and trying to make things better, instead colonize your own planet and make them pollution-free.