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dirkg | 2 years ago

Vim style keybindings and navigation is massively overhyped as is vim itself.

Cue endless debates about how Vim is the best ever ...... I'm sick and tired of everyone telling me that their neovim setup with a tiling window manager with million customized rc files is somehow better than vscode with a mouse (which mind you still has plenty of keyboard shortcuts) with sane windows. /rant

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mst|2 years ago

There's a class of fanboys who will be telling you about that because they're Really Excited that they got it Just How They Wanted It.

Most of us think "we like it, some people don't, great if it's an option, probably shouldn't be the only option anywhere else."

The one-upmanship (over VSCode in your case but all editor wars get a dishonourable mention) is bullshit but, like, random strangers on the internet tell people with crippling depression "hey, you should do <thing>, it fixed -my- depression" so I think you have to just accept that "when something works really well for a human, sometimes they get overexcited and start trying to turn the something into a silver bullet that it isn't" is something that will always happen.

Note: The people doing the arseholish one-upmanship are not in any way forgiven by this, and the "everyone telling you" that you describe would aggravate me as well, but as with the Rust Evangelism Strike Force, you just have to nod and smile (and sometimes point and laugh) at the zealots and look at the technology for yourself.

Note 2: I use the original 1970 Bill Joy vi. Other people I know use VSCode. 'better' is relative, and what works best for any given person/project varies wildly - everything before this note is about the dynamics of people discussing such choices.

z_open|2 years ago

Why do comments like this always ignore the obvious solution of using an IDE like code with a vim plugin. And yes that's more efficient.

microtonal|2 years ago

I tried vi emulation VS Code for a while, but the emulation is often incomplete and breaks at times.

The only thing that emulates vi well enough is Evil in Emacs.

xigoi|2 years ago

I personally don't like having to use a whole browser engine to edit text, and being reliant on a greedy user-hostile corporation for it.