[BostonEnginerd]

There are still plenty of people in the fab. They're not usually running product around in a modern automated fab, but there are always equipment issues to work through. When you have fleets of multiple tens of tools, it's always an exercise to keep them matched and in-line with each other. The majority of modern cleanrooms are "ballroom" style, where the tools all sit out in the open. Each tool has a class 1 mini-environment inside which keeps the product clean. Outside the tools is a cleanroom, but it's not as clean as inside.

Remote access has helped out a lot, but the process engineering folks will still spend a bunch of time every week on the line. The equipment engineering folks will spend time every day on the line working on things.

[rossdavidh]

True that, but if they didn't have enough engineering graduates, they wouldn't just not run the fab. They would suddenly discover that a few engineers at the R&D fab, plus some motivated and smart high school graduates at the production fab, can totally make things run. The fabs will not sit idle due to a lack of college graduates.

[BostonEnginerd]

A lot of what needs to be done definitely is not rocket science, and much of it can be trained -- at least when things are going well.

One thing I do appreciate is that there is a pretty good meritocracy at the second tier fabs working on legacy nodes. I know a fair number of folks who have worked their way up into upper management with only an associates or bachelors degree.