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alex_sf | 2 years ago

> Would you sign up for such a system if you can volunteer to participate in it, with now those random killings being restricted to those who've signed up for it, including you?

I mean, we already have. You volunteer to participate in a system where ~40k people die in the US every year by engaging in travel on public roadways. If self-driving reduces that to 10k, that's a win. You're not really making any sense.

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necovek|2 years ago

But none of that is random.

Eg. NYC (population estimate 8.3M) had 273 fatalities in 2021 (easy to find full year numbers for): https://www.triallaw1.com/data-shows-2021-was-the-deadliest-...

USA (population estimate 335M) had 42,915 (estimated) according to https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/early-estimate-2021-tra...

USA-wide rate is 1 in 7,800 people dying in traffic accidents yearly, whereas NYC has a rate of 1 in 30,000. I am sure it's even lower for subway riders vs drivers. Even drivers, somebody doing 4k miles a year has different chances than somebody doing 40k. People usually adapt their driving style after having kids which also reduces the chances of them being in a collision.

Basically, your life choices and circumstances influence your chances of dying in a traffic accident.

At the extreme, you can go live on a mountaintop, produce your own food and not have to get in contact with a vehicle at all (and some cultures even do).

FWIW, I responded to a rethorical question about killings being random: they are not random today, even if there is a random element to them!

If you want to sign up to a completely random and expected chance of death that you can't influence at all, good luck! I don't.