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biotechbio | 2 years ago

It’s fairly common for private companies to have non-transferability clauses for both options and stock.

IANAL, but this sounds pretty standard and I doubt OP will be able to fight the legitimacy of the claim. Re: a forward sale, sounds like it blatantly violates the agreement and would expose OP to some obvious risks. Agreed OP should talk to a lawyer.

Is anyone else surprised by OP’s indignation? Startups are risky, options aren’t a guaranteed payday, exercising is gamble, and liquidity events are regulated for a reason. Sometimes you lose money. Have we forgotten this?

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stock-throwaway|2 years ago

> Startups are risky, options aren’t a guaranteed payday, exercising is gamble, and liquidity events are regulated for a reason. Sometimes you lose money. Have we forgotten this?

I spent around $100k to purchase this stock and paid tax on the gain. They are now worth millions of dollars on the open market, but the company will not allow me to sell them... I understand it's risky, but at this point they just aren't letting me get a payday...

BaseballPhysics|2 years ago

> They are now worth millions of dollars on the open market

No, they aren't, because there is no open market for private company shares.

You have a private company valuation you can base the share price on, but that's it. And even that is typically based on black magic and accounting tricks since, at the risk of repeating myself, there's no open market in which those shares are trading and thus no method for price discovery.

And any theoretical transfer of ownership would occur in a private transaction or on a private marketplace that specializes in matching buyers and sellers in private company shares.

<chopped this bit out since the dead horse is beaten>

Edit: And to provide something a bit more constructive, here: unless some lawyer comes up with something clever--and certainly it's worth exploring your options--my bet is your only real move is to just hold onto those shares and wait.

Eventually there may be a liquidity event--probably an acquisition--and hopefully you'll net out positive. You basically bought a 100k lottery ticket. I suspect all you can do now is move on and hope it pays off.

dragonwriter|2 years ago

> I spent around $100k to purchase this stock and paid tax on the gain.

Yes, that’s how options exercises work.

> They are now worth millions of dollars on the open market, but the company will not allow me to sell them...

But you were prrsumably aware of that limitation when you entered into the agreement under which you purchased them (if you dispute that that is the agreement you agreed to, thebmn, definitely, you need a lawyer.) So, even insofar as you describe the “open market” accurately, that market isn’t open to you.

> I understand it's risky, but at this point they just aren't letting me get a payday...

Perhaps not. Are they obligated to let you get a payday? Is it in their interests to do so? If neither of those is the case, why do you expect they would?

BaseballPhysics|2 years ago

> Is anyone else surprised by OP’s indignation?

I absolutely am, and got downvoted for saying so.