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ghostwriter | 2 years ago

> Curious, do you think Russia is to blame at all for violating the terms of the Budapest Memorandum?

The Budapest Memorandum was predicated on adherence to all prior agreements Ukraine would never see sovereignty without in the first place [1]. Nobody would just let it go in peace without those prior agreements signed in 1990: >> The Ukrainian SSR ceremoniously proclaims its intention to become a permanently neutral state in the future, which will be out of military blocks and will be committed to three non-nuclear principles: not to accept, not to produce and not to acquire the nuclear weapon. (1990) <<

[1] https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/en/55-12#Text

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dragonwriter|2 years ago

> Nobody would just let it go in peace without those prior agreements signed in 1990

The Declaration of State Soveriegnty of Ukraine isn’t an agreement signed by Ukraine, it was domestic legislation of the Ukraine SSR regarding its future plans at the time, more than a year before the Act of Declaration of Independence of Ukraine was passed.

ghostwriter|2 years ago

Yeah, I've already heard that you don't believe in succesion of power in Ukraine and that it enables everyone in the government to act at a whim of the moment as long as it serves the current agenda. Turns out that strategy doesn't work in real life.

padjo|2 years ago

So what military block did Ukraine join prior to Russia annexing its territory?

ghostwriter|2 years ago

Where did I say that annexation was predicated on the fact of joining rather than an intent to join? Next, what was sovereignty of Ukraine predicated on in 1990?

lisasays|2 years ago

You were asked a specific, yes-or-no question. Care to answer?

ghostwriter|2 years ago

The question is lacking historical context of the declaration of state sovereignty of Ukraine from 1990 to be worthy of specificity you’re willing to hear. Welcome to the real world of messy politics that cost human lives, unless guided by level-headed leaders (that the modern Ukraine has been lacking since early 2000s)