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strictfp | 2 years ago

They've been pulling shady stuff for ages. Ever heard of the false flag attacks in relation to Cuba? The bay of pigs false flag bombings, and the proposed https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods ? Terrible stuff.

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somenameforme|2 years ago

What percent of Americans do you think know about these things? If you set the over/under at 5%, I'd happily take the under. I'd probably be inclined to take the under at 2% as well. That's what's really changing. The government being horrific and abusive is nothing new, but having any remotely relevant chunk of people aware of it, is. And many of those events you mentioned remained completely classified for decades. Operation Northwoods was not made fully available until 2001, about 40 years after it happened.

Now everybody is getting to see this happen in real time. Fabricating evidence to invade Iraq, a completely dystopic domestic surveillance system revealed by a whistle blower, what happens when societies faces even the slightest threat (from a pandemic in this case), the complete collapse of media integrity, completely routine abuse of spying powers, politicization of every single body of the government, and much more. This is what makes now, so much different than the past. "We", as in way more than 5%, are all seeing this play out in real time - and it's shaping our worldviews.

clayhacks|2 years ago

I think it's over 5%, but not much more. There's also the issue of learning about the government abusing power can be intimidating. You learn they do lots of extrajudicial murder, do you speak out and be the next target? We need mass movement of people to call it out and resist for them to change, and I don't see that happening soon enough

aa-jv|2 years ago

.. not to mention the impressive apparatus that was applied to make people think that the Cuban missile crisis started with Soviet missiles showing up in Cuba ..

colpabar|2 years ago

Come on man you can't just throw this out there and not give us a link. You've piqued my interest, now give me some content!

jojobas|2 years ago

You're right, it started with Soviet troops remaining all over Eastern Europe after WW2.