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lifewallet_dev | 2 years ago

This is propaganda and you don't even know it... People get silenced in the US every day because they have a different opinions on current events, for example the US proxy war with Russia.

I always noticed when certain amount of decades pass it's okay to say certain things, like "Allende was assassinated by the CIA", but back then you'd get persecuted to even mention that.

Yes, when it doesn't matter you can say whatever you want, god bless the USA... Because of opinions like yours is that America is the empire who gets the "Okay" to be the police of the world, and it's terrible at that.

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idontwantthis|2 years ago

Here you are tacitly expressing your opinion about “the proxy war”.

Hope you don’t get persecuted too hard.

lifewallet_dev|2 years ago

That's what it is, but okay, I'll probably get banned here for saying that anyways :), the free world woo!

hkpack|2 years ago

> for example the US proxy war with Russia.

Yeah, as a Ukrainian, this triggers me well, good job.

I think that it is good that you feel being silenced.

The world in which a person who have absolutely zero idea what he is talking about will feel cheered, is a very scary to me. Until then, there is hope.

redeeman|2 years ago

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refused_cov_vax|2 years ago

Your country is roadkill in a bigger race, you should accept that

mschuster91|2 years ago

> People get silenced in the US every day because they have a different opinions on current events, for example the US proxy war with Russia.

Uh, sorry what? It was Russia that decided to invade a sovereign country for annexation. Not the other way around.

And of course everyone is free to disagree with your take. You are not being "silenced" or "canceled", you are being told your opinion is completely contrary to facts.

paol|2 years ago

Both things can be true. Yes, Russia is 100% responsible for this war, and yes, the US (and others) are fighting a proxy war through Ukraine in good old cold war style.

lifewallet_dev|2 years ago

More propaganda, listen to the other side... oh well it's banned everywhere.

chaosbolt|2 years ago

Yes Russia did invade Ukraine, but wouldn't the US invade Canada if Russia had organized a coup there to get rid of Trudeau then put a Russian puppet there? Of course the US would... Or would you argue that the 2014 Ukrainian coup wasn't supported by the US?

The thing we never mention is how agressive Nato (the US since it has military bases in Turkey for example, while Turkey doesn't have military bases in the US) has been at pushing its borders towards Russia.

In the end we can call this whatever we want, the facts are clear, if Zelensky had resigned less Ukrainians would have died, and the only ones profiting from this are the US, you can't fight a country like Russia, they have 7000 nukes, it's like thinking Mike Tyson is losing against you because he's too nice to punch you in the face... eventually he will.

The arguments used today are the same as ever (we're freeing the Vietnamese, the Iraqis, etc.), if you look at it as it really is, less dead people is better than more dead people, eventually Ukraine will be destroyed and the US will not even help to rebuild it, if you think they will then look at Iraq.

_kbh_|2 years ago

> This is propaganda and you don't even know it... People get silenced in the US every day because they have a different opinions on current events, for example the US proxy war with Russia.

The irony of your blatantly false statements is that half of what people express on the war in Ukraine here would cause them to end up in jail in Russia, but the opposite views don't cause you to end up in jail in the west.

berdario|2 years ago

Of course you don't "end up in jail in the west".

First they freeze your assets, and only then if you're foolish enough to subject yourself to the due process, you might end up in jail.

There's an handful of people from the west who went to Donbass to report the situation. They are (of course?) mostly supportive of Russia, so you shouldn't delude yourself in thinking that they are unbiased... but they have regularly been threatened with prosecution if/when they'll return, example:

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/german-journalist-...