[gersh]

Self-driving cars haven't really failed. It looks like Cruise and Waymo are about to get permissions to operate 24/7 in SF.

I think the greater issue is that it is difficult to assess time-to-market. You to asses both what is useful, and how long it might take to build. Some things are just gonna need a lot R&D to work. AI-hype makes people underestimate how difficult it is to actually get things to work.

[usaar333]

Agreed failed is too strong, but they are doing worse than than their 2016 hype levels would suggest today.

https://www.theverge.com/2016/9/18/12944506/lyft-self-drivin... <this was pretty absurd>

https://docplayer.net/59662295-The-2017-strategy-digital-aut... <Projected 4% of new cars in 2020 would be Level 3+ - it's approximately 0% today>